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Paceship 23
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Review Date: Thu February 25, 1999 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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We have had our boat for a little over a year. The boat is very solid and well built. We have sailed in some pretty heavy weather and the boat handeled great. My wife and I have spent a week on the boat and were very comfortable. My only complaint is that the mast is too heavy to be stepped by my wife and me.

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Review Date: Fri June 11, 1999 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Solidly built fiberglass boat. The keel is iron. Yes, it is rusting nicely. The shallow draught of the centerboard arrangement has been great for getting in and out of tight spots. My son and I have spent many week ends on the boat. But it is really not comfortable for more than two people, unless you are all very short (we are not).

When I first bought the boat I had dreams of trailering it everywhere, but I was not counting on how those with no experience on mast raising can quickly get into trouble. Eventually I manufactured a rig from several 2x4's that allow me, with the help of the main sheet and blocks, to raise the mast single handed. It's always interesting when people see me laying out the mast and standing up a collection of 2x4's next to the loading ramp, to raise the mast. But it works, is simple, and hasn't failed yet. When I bought my boat it came with original 6hp Johnson. Each spring, I take it to the local outboard shop so they can sprinkle holy water on it. For the rest of the season, it always starts flawlessly. I dream about it having an alternator, but I'm not ready to buy a new outboard just yet. There's only been once when the 6hp had trouble powering the paceship into the wind and waves, but it managed eventually.

A key feature for me is that the boat was relatively inexpensive, and I don't mind too much if the boat gets a nick or scratch here and there. This spring I brought much of the boat back to shiny condition with wet sanding and polishing. Sanding and varnish and on the tiller, a new washboard, and teak grabrails did a lot for her appearance.

The cabin is a good size for the boat. But the cabin size is made up at the expense of cockpit size. And yes it is true, most of your time will be spent in the cockpit, not the cabin. The Tiller certainly intrudes into the cockpit space especially when there are more than two people in the cockpit.

Sailing the boat is what you would expect for a shallow draught boat. She will make more lee-way than a deep keel model. She doesn't point as well into the wind, and in high wind conditions, there is noticeable weather helm. My kids do get a great kick out burying the lee rail in a blow, and I don't worry too much about the boat getting into serious trouble with the kids at the helm.

I recently trailered the boat from the midwest to the east coast. I felt nervous about the single axle trailer, so I had another axle added to the trailer at a cost of 1200.00. This bought great peace of mind. I pulled it with a 4.0L V6 ford explorer. Underpowered ? Yes. 50MPH from OHIO to MASS makes for a long day.

My overall philosophy on sailboats is that anybody can have nice new shiny expensive toy on the waves. All you need is money. However, it takes someone special to cherish and take care of a boat and the boat experience. And then infuse the boat with your personality. And that removes money from the equation. Having thus said, maybe her lines aren't the greatest, maybe she doesn't behave too well in a blow, and sometimes launching is a pain, but I've certainly had my fun. While I'm in a position to put a shiny new toy on the waves, I'll continue to have fun on the Paceship, and spend the money getting the kids through college.









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Review Date: Wed June 28, 2000 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I owned this boat for 12 years, sailed it extensively on the Chesapeake Bay, and recently (6/00) sold it for a larger centerboard. The Paceship had everything I wanted at the time: It had the biggest cabin for the size, it was very shoal draft (perfect for the bay), it was fairly fast, and it's a pretty boat. It served me very, very well.

I had it in some very heavy weather, and the only time its design caused a problem was when I came up from below during a storm and quickly pulled the main hatch shut, only to have the entire hatch pop out of its tracks and get caught by the wind; we almost lost the hatch overboard, which would have left us in the middle of the bay with a huge gaping hole in the deck, with heavy seas regularly washing over the boat. Luckily, I was able to manhandle the hatch down and get it back in the tracks, but the next dry day at dock I drilled in a couple of stop-bolts to make sure the hatch would never "go for a walk" again.

My model was manufactured in Canada before AMF brought the molds south. I am told the Canadian-built hulls are superior to the US-built versions, in that the glass is heavier and less prone to blisters. But I found that in the past five years that I tended to spend as much or more time doing gelcoat and deck repairs than actually sailing the thing -- perhaps more a function of age than manufacture. I added an electric-start 9.9 hp after the original 6 hp outboard burned out, and that convenience was worth the extra cost.

I also found that as time passed, either the boat got smaller or I got bigger, which made the boat less and less comfortable for overnights -- which is why I went to a bigger boat. But for what it is, the Paceship did all I asked of it, and more. Properly maintained, it's a great boat for the money.
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Review Date: Tue August 22, 2000 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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This boat has a large cockpit and relatively flat deck. The cabin sleeps four and is advertised as having "sitting headroom". My 6 year old daughter bumps her head on the cabin ceiling and the table has the feel of a child's toy. Despite this the two main bunks are 6'4" and 6'6" and the vee berth is not small. This boat can be equipped with either a marine head or a porta-potty. It has a sink, a ten gallon fresh water tank, a large cooler and an optional alchohol stove (portable). Storage space is adequate for a weekend.

My boat is powered with a 6 hp Johnson outboard that is as old as the boat. It is adequate. The winches do not allow the use of a winch handle which makes for difficult tacking in a heavy wind but will handle a working jib. If a genoa is desired you must have larger winches as many of the P-23's in our area do.

Overall the boat handles very nicely. It is very affordable yet still offers an overnight capability and the feel of a larger boat. The cockpit is roomy and can accomodate 5 adults while sailing. the coach roof is flat so that the foredeck is very easy to get around on.

I like this boat and intend to keep it for some time. The P-23 is an excellent entry level boat.

ONE YEAR LATER.
Now that I have had the boat for more than a year I have a few more comments.
1. I upgraded the winches to Lewmar 7s which makes a difference.
2. We actually spent some time overnighting and the boat works in this capacity. Lack of storage space when attempting 4 adults means kit bags on floor at night and sail bags in the cockpit at night ... but comfort while sleeping is good. The galley is non-existent and food seems to consist of sandwiches made using dinette table or cooking done in cockpit on portable stove (best to be at anchor for this). The head under the vee-berth is a problem at night for the women and pulling up pants after using the head can be interesting.
3. I have been looking at other boats and would like a seperate head. To get this the price of the boat would immediately double. I have also seen some other boats of this size and am now more certain than ever that this boat is well laid out.

Conclusion: There is no other boat that I have seen that gives this much for so little! This boat is best as a daysailer with the very occasional overnight. The rromy cockpit is unusual and we have sailed with eight adults in reasonable comfort. The more I look the more I am convinced that this boat is amazing for the price!

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