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Precision 21
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Description: Precision 21
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Registered: January 2000
Location: maryland
Posts: 1888
Review Date: Wed March 18, 1998 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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An overall very good boat. Works well for our two adults and two kids. Tight inside for any extended stay but for our daysailing use it works well. Construction throughout is very good. Only downside is that it becomes overpowered at the 10-15 knot wind speed range. In lighter air it is very responsive and stable. With the swing keel shallow water and low tides are no problem. Now going into our second season south of Boston and would highly recommend the boat.
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Review Date: Sun November 8, 1998 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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We have owned our Precision 21 for 3 years and really love this boat. My wife and I spent a week aboard crusing the Florida Keys and and had a great time. The past 2 years, our Precision has been in a slip on the St. John's river near Jacksonville, Fl. We are able to sail her most weekends and have found this boat to be fast, stable and stiff. It takes 15knot winds flying full main and 135% headsail to get the rails wet. Quality is excellent for a boat in this price range. No gel coat cracking or stuctural problems. The 1994 Honda 5hp 4 stroke will push the Precison along at 5 knots at 2/3 throttle. Very easy to single hand and launch at the ramp. I can raise the mast by myself, but prefer to have help. Routinely outruns Catalina 22's. The huge cockpit it great for relaxing under the bimini. We are ready to upgrade to a larger boat with standup headroom, diesel, wheel and furling, but the idea of parting with our Precision's quality, roomy cockpit and easy sailing characteristics has make upgrading more difficult than we expected.
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Review Date: Sat March 18, 2000 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Easy to sail. Most controls well placed. Instruction manual fair to poor.
We have enjoyed four summers! Excellent choice for a first boat. Comments from other
boat owners at our marina: "It's the perfect size!" "What a
nice boat" "Who is the builder?" Excellent support from the dealer, The Sailboat Shop, Glen Gardner, N.J.








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Review Date: Wed June 27, 2001 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I've been sailing my new Precision 21 for a week now, in light air and gusty air, singlehand and with a crew. Here are my observations:

The boat points exceptionally well, even in light air. With a 155 Genoa it seems I can sail almost straight into the wind. The boat is also pretty fast coming about, even in light air. The jiffy reef works well - I can add or shake out a reef singlehanded in less than a minute. The boat seems fairly stable for a shoal keel - the one time I had a problem with heeling (in 15 - 20 kt gusts) I put in a reef and the problem went away.

Things to change: The cleats for the jib are a pain to singlehand. Wrapping the sheets around a horn cleat on the cabin top is time consuming, inaccurate and you have to leave the helm. A grab cleat would have been a better option. You could trim and ease the jib from the helm easily, whether the cleats were cabin mounted or on the coamings. The rudder downhaul is horrible. The line gets jammed between the cheekplate and the rudder almost every time I use it. A bale or a block at the bottom of the cheek plate may fix this. I have the same complaint about the centerboard line that I have about the jib sheets 0 a grab cleat would have been better. The boat is only a week old and already the line is showing wear from the chafe around the horn cleat, and the board can't be raised or lowered from the helm. A tiller tamer is a must.

All in all, I am very pleased with the boat. It's a pleasure to sail both singlehanded and with a mate. The few things that need changing are minor fixes and I should be able to do them all rather inexpensively.
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Review Date: Tue November 12, 2002 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Review of my 2002 Precision 21 (P-21):

Overview: I have been sailing for 30+ years and have owned several “pocket cruisers”. My requirements for my boat are that I could spend a weekend on in reasonable comfort, have a reasonable level of performance and still be able to trailer with an average vehicle and not have to mortgage the family farm to afford. I feel the P-21 is one of the very few production boats that fore fills my requirements. I have found the P-21 to be roomy enough to spend a weekend on, a safe stable boat with excellent performance, easy to trailer and reasonable priced.
Quality of Construction: The P-21 is a production boat. I have experience with many other brands and feel the P-21 construction quality is well above average. The builder’s attention to details (fit and finish) is quite good and demonstrates their commitment to providing a quality boat at an affordable price. The P-21 is equipped with quality deck hardware, standing rigging (rugged and well-made), sails and running rigging, etc. Like all production boats there are things that could be better, minor stuff that may or may not be important depending on the individual.

Amenities: The P-21 is equipped with a one burner stove, a sink with 5 gallons of water storage, place for a port-a-potty, a 50 Qt cooler which also servers as the step into the cabin and 3 berths. 2 adults in the side berths and 2 (small) children in the for peak berth. The cockpit is roomy, over 7 foot long and plenty wide enough for four to be quite comfortable. There is a lot of storage space and sufficient room in the cabin. I really like the stern rail “cat bird” seats. All the expected electrical stuff is there (running lights, cabin lights, etc.). All in all the P-21 is well equipped and roomy enough to spend a weekend on in reasonable comfort.

Trailer, rigging, launching and recovering: The P-21 comes with a custom-made performance trailer. I purchased the optional “mast raising system”. The P-21 trailers easily and securely. My current tow vehicle is an 88 Jeep Cherokee. Rigging the P-21 is quick and easy, takes me about 20 to raise the mast etc. and be ready to launch. The mast raising system is a real plus, however I made several modifications to be able to accomplish this by myself. Launching is a snap compared with my previously boats. I back the P-21 down the ramp, disconnect the winch strap and safety chain, board the boat and back off using the engine. No fuss, no bother, quick and easy. Recovering is almost just as easy, does require a little effort to crank the P-21 back on the trailer, not as much as my previously boats. One complaint – I do wish the Performance trailer came standard with POLY keel rollers instead of the bloody black rubber things. The POLY keel rollers really make all the difference! Un-stepping the mast is easy and quite effortless especially with the optional mast raising system. All in all the P-21 is a pleasure to trailer, rig, launch and recover, much simpler then one would expect with a boat of this size.

Sailing Performance: The P-21 is a shoal draft keel, centerboard combo design. I like this comprise. I am not a fan of either water ballast or swing keel designs. In my humble opinion both these designs are unsafe. The shoal draft keel, centerboard combo enhances the P-21’s overall performance. The P-21 is a fractional hi-aspect-ratio rig, majority of the P-21’s lift is from the mainsail. The headsail aids its pointing performance. The P-21 is sensitive to mast tuning, if the mast isn’t tuned correctly the P-21 performance will suffer quite a bit. The P-21 sails well in light air (just remember to raise the centerboard). The rudder has sufficient area to hold the P-21 off the weather even when over-powered. I have sailed with full canvas in steady 15 knots with no untold problems. The P-21 is “self righting” – which means the P-21 should recover from a “knock down”. The P-21 will sail just fine on the main alone, in fact the P-21 should never be sail with the headsail alone, puts too much stress on the rigging, the shrouds are set after of the mast. I happen to like a boat which heels (tender) then stiffens up (takes a set). I get a better feel for how “powered-up” the boat is and when to take appropriate steps as necessary. The P-21 fits this nicely. I do have one issue, I single hand most of the time and find the jib sheet cleats a real pain, miles from the helm and just plain useless. I intend to “fix” this issue this winter. Overall the P-21 is a great sailor!

Summary: I like the P-21, it is all I required and highly recommend the P-21. However, in my humble opinion, the P-21 may be more than a novice expects without either taking sailing lessons or having someone with sailing experience along until they become comfortable with the P-21’s performance.
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Registered: July 2003
Review Date: Tue July 29, 2003 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Had our 21 for 13 years. First 6 years on the trailer and the rest in a salt water slip. Excellent boat and it is the envy of our fellow big boat neighborhood. The stainless steel rails are just starting to rust through neglect on my part but the rest of her is in fine shape. Have replaced the cooler with a brand new West Marine ultra cool. Great boat in light winds and can motor 30 miles in just over 6 hours being pushed by a 5 HP 4 stroke engine. Had problems with the centerboard getting stuck in the up position but thanks to the dealer I have now learned to jump up and down on the cabin floor to free her up. Had the hull painted every 3 years and I keep her clean in between with a scrub brush. Plenty of room, easy to sail, shallow water draft, good handling, well built, what else do you need. I am now looking at a 37-foot offshore boat to take her place. I will be really sad the day I sell her.
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STEVEBUERGER
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Registered: March 2008
Location: Wauconda, IL
Review Date: Thu March 27, 2008 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Perfectly balanced in design / features
Cons: Sensitive to novice sailor

I have had a number of larger sailboats including : Catalina 34 MKII, Pacific Seacraft Dana, Tartan 3500, Jeanneau SO37. In addition to smaller designs
including the predecessor to the Precision line, the Sprindrift 22 also designed
by Jim Taylor. While every boat has it's benefits, there's always a level of compromise. The P-21 model is a boat that can fulfill almost anything you could expect from 21 feet and still be easily portable. Some key structual
design features like a Keel/CB with kick-up rudder and a manageable displacement of just under 1900 pounds. Those equal a reasonably easy boat
to tow & launch and one perfect for thin water anchoring. As far as amenities
go it's hard to ask for much more. The wide open 7 foot cockpit, compression
post free interior cabin, safe & usable side decks ( rare on anything under 25
feet ) are perfect. The interior has usable & comfortable back rests, wide enough settee seats to make useful berths to sleep on, with plenty of room
between the berth cushions and the underside of the cockpit seats for legroom. The ergonomics were done right with the height of the settees &
V-berth at levels that are natural & comfortable of long periods, in addition
to a semi-flat ( slightly curved ) wide open cabin sole. The 4 opening
ports & screens, give it ventilation advantages over about anything else in
its size range and unheard of in 1970's & 1980's vintage designs. On a hot
sunny day, you couldn't even consider being down below on most boats this size.

Another unusal feature is in the type of full hull liner. While you may lose 1/3 or so of storage volume, the interior will stay 100% free of mildew odor and of the storage spaces available, there will be no mildew left on your stores either. It's also easy to locate things in their storage compartments, rather than searching all over the place, for something that slid around to a hard to reach spot between the underside of the furniture and the bare hull.

Another great feature in the cockpit is the stern rail seats which were unheard of on a boat this size before, and one that we use all the time, especially at anchor.

In terms of performance it's really sensitive and fast, which could scare a more inexperienced captain. While she lists over pretty quickly to 20 degrees
or so, with the CB & rudder fully down, she hardens up shortly after. You do need to reef around 12 kt's or so to keep her on her lines, where she's not
only more comfortable but faster too.

I really think for the size & money, you can't find anything better or even equal. We also love her looks, where we feel both the best sailing boat we've ever had and the most beautiful was the Tartan 3500. This P-21
is just like a scaled down version of that model in every way, thus we like
to refer to her as our "Mini-Tartan".
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