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San Juan 23
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Description: San Juan 23
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Review Date: Thu September 26, 1996 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Great little pocket cruiser for 2 people or up to 4 people (if they know each other well.) It is a fairly lively boat particularly in winds over 12-15 knots. This liveliness likely stems from its narrow beam for trailering. It has a smaller cockpit then a Catalenia 22 but much more cabin space. The cockpit does tend to get a bit small if sailing with more that 3 adults. Also being a small boat, dancing on the forepeak to lower a head sail in winds of 15+ knots can be a bit interesting. But all in all a big bang for dollar spent and a terrific entry level boat which is further enhanced by its trailerability.
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Review Date: Thu October 24, 1996 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Design Summary: The SJ23 was designed with a narrow beam for trailerability, it also was designed to be fast and manuverable. With a full complement of sails, you shouldn't need much else. The mast was also design to step down quickly.

Key Features: The SJ23 has a roomy inner compartment and my particular year has a stove, two sinks, place for a portable head, plenty of sleeping areas, folding table, plenty of storage compartments, and a stowable area for the front anchor rope and chain.

Strengths: Her greatest strength is the one design aspect. Ease of handling, many hardware components that you find on bigger boats.

Weaknesses: The cockpit area is small so that a larger cabin design could be utilized. Two to three adults can comfortably sit. The back lifeline tends to get in the way when trying to start the outboard motor. I remedied this by installing and extra pelican hook on starboard end, and a loop end on the other.

Overall Satisfaction: The Clark boat Co. has stopped producing this line of sailboats for several years. This boat even though the smaller cockpit has the enduring qualities and is unique in appearance, size and shape that has attracted me as well as many other SJ23 owners. This unit seems to hold up its value and is good starter boat for many first time buyers.





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Review Date: Thu January 23, 1997 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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The San Juan 23 is a trailerable sloop rigged sailboat. It has a keel cnetreboard arangement that allows for a very shallow draft with the board up, of 1'11" and still allows for 960 lbs. of ballast. It has an 8' beam whifh was the maximum at the time it was built. The boat is extremely roomy in side with a large V-berth over 7' long and more than sitting headroom. The cabin area has over 5' of headroom and 3 berths. There is also a porta potti and galley, with a sink, aholing tank and stove.
The boat is a very good sailer and is very stiff for a boat of its type, the shoal keel with large ballast allow for this. The boat is easily singlehanded and comfortable to sail. The one drawback to it is that all the room below had to come from somewhere and that is the cockpit. While the boat is laidout to sleep 4-5 the cockpit is crowded with more than 3 in it and is most comfortable with 2. In my case the small cockpit and large interior wer not drawbacks, but if you like to sail with a group this boat may not be the one for you. For 2-3 though the boat is great and I love it.
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Review Date: Sat September 19, 1998 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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--Pocket cruiser/racer, alot of boat in 23 ft
--masthead rig, keel/centerboard(1'11" drft), modern design
--Comfortable cabin, large V-berth, good deck layout, good sailing boat, 234 PHRF(Lake Erie), fairly well built(balsa cored deck, hull and deck liner)
--Small cockpit, some rigging details not well done,
--Very satisfied alot of boat and enjoyment for the money, I would readily recommend this boat as a starter cruiser/racer





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Review Date: Fri April 14, 2000 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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This is a very good boat for daysailing. It is fast and stable. We have sailed it in 25 knot winds with gusts and have not been able to knock it down. When it gets too much it rounds up into the wind.

Creature comforts are another matter. You can not sit on the side berths with out bumping your head. The galley is in the way of sleeping on the berths. You are supposed to put your feet under it. It was taken out of my boat.

In short, for fun daysailing with a cabin to allow you to get out of the sun, this is one of the best boats around. For cruising with more than two people, it is too small.
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Review Date: Fri December 5, 2003 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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In my opinion, the San Juan 23 is one of the very best trailerable cruising boats available, dollar for dollar. All smaller sailboats involve compromises but the SJ23 has fewer than most in this size range. I previously owned a Chrysler C22, another good trailer sailor. I like the SJ23 far better. If you are looking for a trailerable sailboat that sails well and has fairly comfortable cruising accomodations for a reasonable price, the San Juan 23 is hard to beat.

Pros:
1. Fast and fun to sail. Excellent in light air and more than capable in a blow. Especially fast downwind. I've kept up with much larger boats. Has the look an feel of a larger boat. Many have lines led aft for single-handed sailing. Competitive racer. Many have spinnakers.
2. Fixed shoal keel with centerboard. Great for exploring shallow areas yet gives a more solid, safe feel than swing-keel boats like the Chrysler 22 and Catalina 22. No "hum" from a keel lifting cable. No need for a winch to raise the keel. No "thumping" in waves from a loose swing keel slapping the keel trunk. No leaking swing keel brackets!
3. Very large cabin compared to similar boats. Nice if you plan to do any cruising. No keel trunk intruding into floor space. Flat cabin sole! Folding table frees up cabin area. Technically sleeps five. Two very long single berths in the cabin and a roomy v-berth forward. "Quarter berth" below starboard cockpit seat is claustrophobic but is great for storage. Lots of storage space under the cockpit and settees. Shelves run the entire length of the cabin on both sides. Fixed counter with sink and room for portable stove. Porta-potty under the v-berth. Nice smoked lexan hatch over v-berth lets in lots of light.
4. Easily trailered. Mast is easily stepped and raised by one reasonably fit person. I don't even need to use any type of gin-pole or block & tackle rig - I just lift the mast and walk it upright. It stays up on its own while I attach the forestay. If you have a trailer tongue extension (I highly recommend it) you can float the boat right off/on the trailer with minimal need for a winch.
5. Reasonably priced. Used boats available, many with outboard and trailer, in the $3,500-$5,500 range.
6. Good internet group support. Although the SJ23 is no longer made, there are good internet groups for tech tips, etc. Check out the San Juan 23 Internet Fleet at http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/5493/

Cons:
1. Smallish cockpit seating capacity. Not designed primarily as a day-sailor for a large group. However, the cockpit is not noticeably smaller than other similar sized cruisers like the Chrysler 22 or Catalina 22. Two people on the windward cockpit seat is about max for comfort, three if you don't mind being cozy. Another person can sit on the low side seat if they enjoy being closer to the water. There's room for crew to sit on the windward rail, cabin top and foredeck too.
2. Not a really high-end boat. The trim, construction quality, etc. is not as nice as higher-end trailerables like the Rhodes 22 or Compac 23 but the price is not nearly as high either. Quality is very comparable with Chrysler, Catalina, Hunter, etc. and better than many other trailerables that I have seen. The original 1979 gel coat on my boat is still very shiny with little oxydation.
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Registered: June 2003
Review Date: Thu February 3, 2005 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Better than average build quality - A good compromise boat - this one trades cockpit room for the largest cabin you will find on a 23 - great v berth, comfortable cabin to have coffee on a misty morning. Keel/centerboard means easily trailerable. Small cockpit good for 2-3 adults - nice sailing boat, decent PHRF racer, not a windward machine!
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