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$14,000.00
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8.0
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Anonymous
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Review Date: Sun April 29, 2007
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: $14,000.00
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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price, roominess, sailing qualities
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Cons:
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headliner, floor susceptible to rot
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The Seidelmann 299 represents a good value in a sail boat. Fine sailing qualities, roomy and good headroom below, and modestly priced.
The boat is tender from the moment one steps aboard, heeling several degrees from the weight of the person stepping aboard at the 11' beam. There is plenty of room below to shelve crew gear and consumables for the day's sail. The 10 hp. Yanmar has proven to be very reliable. She points very close to the wind. She excels in a light breeze. Boat is of a light displacement and acts thusly in a blow. Reef early. Boat handles well under power, though the engine lacks sufficient power to make way in strong head winds. She lacks a comfortable seaberth on the port tack due to cabinetry.
At the dock, the boat offers a roomy and bright salon. Ventilation is good. 6' 3" headroom is welcome by many. Comfortably sleeps three, though six can sleep in a pinch. Nav area and galley are acceptable
Bilge is shallow and tends to soak the floor while heeling. Check edges of floor for rot. Expect approx. 15 hours of labor to redo floor. Headliner adhesive frequently fails and needs regluing. Check for water intrusion at deck fittings and windows. Check for corrosion of aluminum fuel tank. Other problems in the fleet include chainstay bulkhead/hull bond failure, rudder water intrusion.
Fair winds.
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npronpro
Junior Member
Registered: June 2008 Location: Clearwater Posts: 10
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Review Date: Mon February 2, 2009
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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solid hull, responsive to light winds, handles a blow
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like any 30 yr old - needs some TLC
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As per the previous review, the Seidelmann 299 represents a good value in a sail boat. Fine sailing qualities, roomy and good headroom below, and modestly priced. Can be sailed solo but easy to manage with two - only one has to be limber. <g>
The boat indeed is very tender from the moment one steps aboard, heeling several degrees from the weight of the person stepping aboard at the 11' beam. This was disconcerting for the first months of ownership but now I hardly notice.
There is plenty of room below to shelve crew gear and consumables for the day's sail. The 15 hp 2QM15 Yanmar has been reliable. She points very close to the wind. She excels in a light breeze or 20 knot winds. Boat is not heavy and acts it in a blow. Reefing early is a good idea but main can take a 20 knot breeze, however expect some pitching in the choppy waters of the Gulf of Mexico. The tiller can be tightened so it holds well but in heavier winds it takes a bit of effort at the helm.
Boat handles well under power, though the engine lacks sufficient power to make more than 3.5 knots way in strong head winds. IMHO the V-berth is too small (I'm 5'9" and 215lbs) for two or even one with space issues. I like sleeping in the main cabin's portside double berth as it is comfortable and the space is roomy and bright - there is a second berth on the starboard side. In my 299 there are no quarter berths.
At the dock, the boat offers a roomy and bright salon. Ventilation is good. 6' 3" headroom is welcome by many. Comfortably sleeps three, though six dwarfts can sleep in a pinch. Nav area and galley are acceptable.
The port area under the cockpit seat is closed off and storage area is difficult to reach from the salon so I spent $500 to open it up and make it a locking lazerette. It is not wide open as there is an AC hot water tank there but it is worthwhile to have the extra space.
The starboard area lazerette is commodius and while it has the washdown hose, guest power and batteries it still has lots of storage space.
Bilge is shallow and while some find that it tends to soak the floor while heeling, I have not seen that. Some have complained that the headliner adhesive frequently fails and needs re-gluing but I have been very satisfied with the headliner and find it to be of durable quality and attractive. As with all boats its a good idea to check for water intrusion at deck fittings and windows. Check for corrosion of aluminum fuel tank. Other problems in the fleet include chain stay bulkhead/hull bond failure, rudder water intrusion.
The Seidelmann 299 represents a good value in a sail boat. Good sailing qualities, roomy and lots of headroom below, and modestly priced. I love the large amounts of teak and have put on 7 coats of varnish without it being too onerous to me - and I'm not really a handyman type - if you hate bright work and the work it entails, look elsewhere for a sloop.
I'm planning on a cruise down the west coast of Florida and into the Bahamas - so I'll know more - I purchased it off of EBay for a little under $6000 and have put in more than that in upgrades to lifelines, new sails, new blocks, repairs, engine service, upgrading the shore power, and don't forget the varnish and brushes. <g> A friend helped replace some missing screws in the mast steps, and a professional put on a new block for sreecher-drifter sail. So, if you invest 15000 you have a dependable vessel for coastal sailing that is great fun and can even be a liveaboard for the committed and commit-able.
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