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Siren 17
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Review Date: Sun March 23, 1997 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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Steel centerboard, cuddy cabin, barely legal head, sleeping for two.
Positive floatation, doesn't ship much water if knocked down, very shallow draught, easy to sail,large cockpit, seems to be quite well built.
Tender, totally uncomfortable to sit inside, very hard to be comfortable sitting in cockpit(no back support).
Can't complain too much, wasn't overly expensive, nice for day sailing, looks pretty, it seems to handle some pretty darn good big waves and it scoots right along with a 5hp motor. I do some fishing off of it. (hove to)
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Review Date: Sun October 12, 1997 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I purchased a Siren 17 as my first sailboat. I liked the layout, wide beam, self righting, and ease of sailing. The cabin is small but I only day sail. The head is small and in an awkward place. I use a 4hp johnson sailmaster which works well. The boat needed a lot of work when I bought it; heavily oxidized gel coat, holes, and old worn rigging but I bought it reasonably so the sweat equity was worth it. Its a fun little boat to sail but finding information on it is very difficult! I'm happy to share any info with other Siren owners. I thoroughly enjoy this boat!
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Review Date: Mon July 20, 1998 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I've owned my boat since the spring of '98. I've done a
fair amount of sailing on Seneca Lake (one of the Finger
Lakes) The water can get very big in hurry on this lake,
and you can go from sitting in irons in the middle of the
lake to a big blow in minutes or less. Tough to rig for
that! I find the Siren 17 is indeed a tender boat, but
it points much better in a fresh breeze than light air.
So, I try to sail on that ragged edge in whatever air
presents itself. I have never pushed the boat to see just how far she'll go before being knocked down, but I can see
how having that knowledge would be of great value.
I do feel the boat needs more ballast than 130 lbs.
I'm considering making a new keel from a lead/antimony
alloy (to be as stiff as possible.) Some concern about
changing the boat balance by adding too much weight
prevents me from doing it right now, today.
Overall, for reasonable wind conditions, the Siren is
pleasure to sail. The big cockpit makes me feel like I'm
aboard a much bigger boat....until a blow comes up! *S*
I'd love to hear from anyone who has undertaken a keel
material change in a swing keel boat.

Little boats, big hearts

Dirk
Skipper, Corazon
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Review Date: Fri July 24, 1998 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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This is my first sail boat and I sail her on a small lake in central Alberta, Canada. The winds here tend to be variable and at times gusty and this boat tends to be very forgiving. This is now my forth year of sailing and I found learning on this Siren was easy.I tend now to push her limits and have yet to get into any trouble. The boat was in generaly good shape when I bought her and she didn't need much work to make her shine. I did install an overhead consol to house a stareo and a solar batery charger. The overhead consol reduced the amount of head room but there is still enough for two adults to use. I hope to spend more time sailing her and maybe even sleep in it one day. I am interested in obtaining any manuals and other information on this boat.







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Review Date: Thu December 3, 1998 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I have modified my boat considerably, changing the main sheeting from the transom to the cockpit floor. Also added several grab rails, lazy jacks, roller furling on genoa, installed table in cuddy cabin. I kick it in dead air with a 5hp motor. Have been itching for a slightly bigger boat for more cabin space, but for daysailing I really like her.











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Review Date: Thu January 14, 1999 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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The Siren is very versatile and roomy for being only 17ft long, and weighing a sprightly 750#. I tow mine with a 4cylinder 124hp engine, and had no trouble in the steep mountians of WV and VA. The boat rides low on the trailer which also helps. I like the design because every corner of the boat is accessible for repairs, modifications, or upgrades. The hull is strongly built and has a usefull cast-in motor mount which precludes the need for an external one. The riggins is also very strong compared to some boats in its class. The moulded-in-place toilet is too crude for practical use, and so I've move my group 24 battery there which will improve the balance of the boat.
All in all this is a fine little sailor that ought to be put back into production. It seems like with the advent of the internet more and more people are learning about the fine qualities it offers in a small package.
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Review Date: Mon April 5, 1999 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I've owned this boat for 3 years and currently sail on Long Island Sound. I have sailed under many different conditions, but have not yet (thankfully)had a knock down situation, but it is good to hear that it recovers well. I have some of the owners manual and specs. I am looking forward to extending my distance record this summer.
Jack Aubrey,
Long Island, NY
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Review Date: Wed July 21, 1999 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I've recently bought this boat and I'm really impressed. I was looking for a trailer sailer that rides low on the trailer, easy to tow, no water ballast, can fit my garage, but still be able to accommodate two persons for a weekend of cruising on any lake or the Chesapeake. This boat - at a pinch - fits all those requirements. The cockpit is very large and has useful space. The cabin is small and divided by the centerboard trunk, but can cater to the needs of two persons quite admirably. My only complaint is the absence of a sliding top to the hatch. This makes entering the cabin more difficult than it's supposed to be if you're 6'3" tall! She points well, is relatively fast but very tender, which can be exciting to the experienced sailor but scary to landlubbers. A perfect gunkholer also due to the winch-up keel/centerboard and consequently very shallow draft.
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Review Date: Thu March 9, 2000 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I have a 1986 siren and other than the fact that the cabin is quite cramped I
really like the boat.As far as how far the boat can heel before going over I understand that the rudder will come out of the water and the boat will turn into the wind before the boat flips.My main reason for writing here was to share the fact that there is a siren owners club at http//clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/sirenownersclub
At this location you will find a complete copy of the manual along with other ideas and modifications from other siren owners. The club currently has almost 100 members. See you there!!
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Review Date: Tue January 22, 2002 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I recently purchased a '77 Siren 17 that lives in my garage, and sails the coastal waters of SW Florida. I really like the boat! It has many useful features and is well built. I've always dreamed of a new Potter 15 (I like it's shippy look and small size). I figured I'd rather learn on a used boat before buying new, but could not find a used Potter to start sailing with in my area. The Siren came to my attention online, and I'm pleased I bought it! It's only a 17 ft boat, so of course the cabin is going to be cramped, but it sleeps two comfortably, with plenty of room for gear. Much more comfortable than any tent I've ever camped in, and more fun since it's on the water! Head storage is my only challenge, the floor is not flat or wide enough to make it easy. I'm still working on a better solution for day use, but at night it's fine to store in the cockpit and use there if needed. I'm rigging a boom tent, which was originally a factory option, though mine will be more screen than fabric for use in the Summer. I'm running a 43lb thrust MotorGuide electric motor, with two 90 amp deep cycle batteries - swift and silent. The headsail (150 Genoa) furls easily, and the main is simple enough to reef. The boat is tender (again, it's a small boat) but it's fun to sail. Trailering is a breeze, and much easier to launch and retrieve than the ComPac 16 that I owned for a day! (long story) I'm a firm believer in what Larry Brown, author of "Frugal Yachting" said of boats - "The use a boat gets is in inverse proportion to it's size". Unless you live-aboard, the smaller trailerable boat is likely to be used more. You can take it anywhere, rig it by yourself if need be, and be sailing in minutes whenever the mood hits you. I own my boat, it does not own me. It's in my garage not only to save money on storage, it also allows me to work on it after dinner, and to say goodnight to it before going to bed. I love this boat!
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Review Date: Thu May 15, 2003 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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I bought the Siren about 2 years ago and have been very happy with it. It is my first sailboat and I learned to sail on it. I always sail on Long Island Sound, and the waves get quite large at times. I have always felt very safe. My wife, young daughter and I have slept on the boat several times. It is camping, but quite comfortable. It is a nice boat and I look forward to taking her out in a couple weeks.
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Review Date: Wed August 2, 2006 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Classic design lines ( she's pretty), high level of flotation built in, quite responsive, breeze to trailer (even w/ small car), furling jib (rare for a small boat), with swing keel & 8" min. draft a gunkholeing dream boat, huge cockpit, decent
Cons: Newbees should sail Siren's reefed till they are used to their 'dinghy like' sailing qualities, they are getting a little older, you may need to put a little restoration effort in them , designed to be a protected waters cruiser they are some what tender

In short: Sirens are great boats when sailed in the conditions they are intended for. They are protected waters Micro Cruisers. Think of them as a hybred: dinghy/keelboat. They trailer like a dream, have even occasion been pulled/ launched with some of the smaller cars. They have several huge online & highly active sailing communities.

One is the Micro Cruiser's SubGroup: (Also other small boats OK there too)

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/sirenowners_subgroup/

The other is Siren Owners Group:

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/sirenowners/

Many helps in restoration and modification ideas there...(all completely at your own sole risk by the way).

The boats are very restorable (most parts available aftermarket), and the original sailmaker is still in business. Being a small cruiser they are more economical than a larger boat to fix up (F.Y.I: a warning no sail boat is dirt cheat to fix though). Sirens tend to be able to be bought in fairly good condition pretty reasonably.

Check the swing keel/and keel trunk for good working condition before buying one, if not working right will take some effort to fix. Sirens sometimes have delaminated bunks (but a fairly easy fix with epoxy). Brightwork occasionally needs restoration (or in poor cases replacement, sometimes you may need to replace/ not too bad if you can do wood work, or know someone who can.) some blocks or other hardware.

An important modification is bed boards (see the online sites for pics) they give the Siren a HUGE 7' "V" berth. another important mod in a Siren is big river rafting "dry bags" to allow you to store camping gear, food, etc., as low as possible in the bilge for improved ballast helping 'initial stability' considerably.

To improve pointing on a Siren sail with a tightly tensioned jib halyard.

I love these boats...

This information is not advise, just informal web chat. Completely at your own sole risk.

Ol Bill
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Review Date: Tue December 26, 2006 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 10 

 
Pros: Excellent trailerability, exciting to sail, cockpit is big, cabin OK for size of boat (couple can overnight), can well exceed hull speed in a run with jib out on a whisker pole, classic lines
Cons: points so-so, light on ballast so tis tender, though not too bad (I add camp gear to bilge in river rafting "dry bags" and she is much less tender, or maybe a sand bag or two)

This is a very fun little cruiser. My wife and I have sailed mine for years now, we love overnighting on it several days at a time. We sail on a small (19 miles long by a mile or so wide - but potentially very gusty) highland mountain lake, she hasn't failed us yet. This boat is not the best choice for "big waters" with large wave possibilities, but on smaller and protected waters she is great.

Huge (700 -900 member) quite active (and helpful) online sailing community at two Yahoo Chat Groups is a fine asset to someone wanting to restore one of these fine little cruisers...
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Registered: January 2006
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Review Date: Thu July 19, 2007 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 0 

 
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siren 17 has a very active group on sirenowners_subgroup@yahoogroups.ca
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Review Date: Fri August 24, 2007 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: $2,500.00 | Rating: 8 

 
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I added 30 lbs of steel to the keel.You should reinforce the winch mount for this.This boat can be knocked down when sailing on the main only. It will not self right with the keel not fully down.(but only requires a light pull on the keel.)
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