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Re: Another America’s Cup entry destroyed

Originally Posted by PalmettoSailor View Post

I read some of these posts and am reminded of Aesop's Fox and the grapes.
Yeah, here's some more 'sour grapes' from two of the bravest, most accomplished sailors on the planet:

Webb Chiles... 5 solo circumnavigations, first American to sail around Cape Horn alone, sailed halfway around the world in an 18' open boat... Hardly a timid soul:


wrong boat?

Our single handing pal Webb Chiles offers a brief comment on the AC tragedy…

Sailing is not ever going to become mainstream. Hell, soccer isn’t even mainstream in the United States. And some people think that by creating radical, unsound and inherently unsafe boats, sailing is going to get up there with Nascar and the NFL? I don’t think so; and for that matter I don’t even think it desirable. Harbors, marinas and anchorages are already crowded enough. Here’s a quote from a Wired piece about Thursday’s America’s Cup fatality.

The Oracle crash last October happened in much worse conditions, and in much rougher seas. The team was risking a turn in a twenty-five knot wind, with an ebb tide that was running at six knots. The new America’s Cup boats are powered with a solid wing instead of a soft sail, which makes them very efficient, but it also means that they cannot be de-powered. The turning maneuver in high winds is greatly feared by sailors, who call it the “death zone.

“Much worse conditions” “Much rougher seas” “risking a turn in twenty-five knot wind” “high winds…greatly feared by sailors, who call it the ‘death zone.’ ” ???

If you are on a boat in which making a turn in 25 knots of wind puts you in a ‘death zone’, you are on the wrong boat.

wrong boat? | Sailing Anarchy
And Grant Dalton... 5 Whitbread/Volvo Races, skippered the maxi cat CLUB MED to victory in The Race in 2001, setting the record for the fastest circumnavigation at the time... Managing Director of Team New Zealand, here's what he said after ORACLE's capsize last November:


Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton previously told Fairfax Media about his misgivings and yesterday's accident appears to have justified those.

The wind limits for cup racing have been placed at 33 knots at this stage although Dalton is "highly doubtful" they can be raced in that wind.

"These boats will be terrifying in a big breeze," he said.

Again, that's from the man who skippered this 120-footer RTW in 62 days, via the Great Capes and Southern Ocean...

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