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Re: Another America’s Cup entry destroyed

Others will have to forgive my continuation of this digression, if you have no interest in F1, simply skip over this response...

Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Way off topic,

Who cares who Ayrton Senna is and why should I care to know. Why would the American public watch FI...which they don't or care about it. It doesn't interest our pedestrian tastes obviously. They don't relate to the drivers for one or the cars for two.
Note To Self:

Never, EVER begin a discussion of F1 racing by acknowledging the name of the Fastest Man Who Ever Lived means nothing to you... (grin)

Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
The NASCAR cars require a tremendous team effort during the race as the conditions change constantly with the heat of the track and constant adjustments are made to the camber, springs air pressures etc., while in F1 you got what you got when you start basically.
Apparently, you haven't looked at the steering wheel of an F1 recently... The capability of the drivers to make changes to the cars during the race boggles the mind - hell, at Monaco next week, they might be making brake bias adjustments for individual CORNERS during the course of a single lap... Not to mention, the telemetry between the pit and the car on the track, while allows the teams to initiate changes to such computerized functions as engine mapping, and the monitoring of tire pressures, and so on... It's laughable to assert the level of technological complexity of NASCAR is even in the same solar system as F1, much less the same planet...

01. BOOST » F1 cars have an electric-hybrid system known as KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) that regenerates braking energy, then boosts acceleration—at the push of a button—via an 80-hp electric motor. Another feature that increases speed is the movable rear wing that flattens to reduce drag. The wing is controlled by a foot pedal.


03. HARVEST » Regulates the amount of energy "harvested" during braking. The regen system can alter the feel of the brakes, and because these guys drive with exacting precision, they're picky about tactile feedback. This knob lets them customize.


05. MIX » Adjusts the engine's air—fuel mixture to balance power and fuel economy. F1 cars don't refuel during a race, but economy is still vital—fuel adds weight.

06. BITE POINT » The race start is critical because the cars begin from a stop and the initial sprint is a prime overtaking opportunity. The bite point adjusts how the clutch engages as the drivers release the paddle, so they can execute a perfect launch.

07. BPF » During practice starts, the driver uses the "bite point find" to record the clutch behavior. Engineers use the data to instruct the driver where to set the bite point dial.


09. BBAL » Displays the front—rear brake balance, a critical adjustment that drivers make to fine-tune the braking performance. Most passes are done in the braking zones.



12. LIMITER » Restricts the car's speed to the pit-lane limit, 62 mph.



15. TORQUE » The 2.4-liter V8 revs to 18,000 rpm and delivers north of 700 hp. That's a handful in a 1400-pound car, so the drivers use this knob to adjust the engine's torque curve, depending on track conditions.

16. TYRE » Teams use roughly half a dozen different tires that vary in construction and diameter. This dial tells the computer which tires are fitted so it can calculate wheel speed.


18. DIFFERENTIAL » Thanks to electronic controls, the characteristics of the rear differential can be tailored for corner entry, midpoint and exit—each with 12 settings. Frankly, we're amazed that the drivers can detect such minute rear-end differences during cornering events that last for maybe a few seconds. But that's why they're paid millions.

Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Getting Americans to go to F1 races is like asking Americans to give up football for soccer. We like our NASCAR.
Yes, we Americans are primarily interested in the forms of sport we excel at... No other nation is so fond of proclaiming our football, basketball, and baseball teams "WORLD CHAMPIONS" in professional sports leagues such as the NFL, NBA, and MLB that are not contested beyond our own borders. We are the ultimate "Homers", if a global sport like World Cup Skiing doesn't have an American competitor like Lindsey Vonn at the top at a particular time, it has little interest for most of America... Hence, the lack of general interest in F1, we've only produced 2 World Drivers Championships since 1950, while countries such as Austria and Finland have produced twice as many... This sort of chauvinism that exists in our cultural view of worldwide sport goes a long way towards explaining the widespread lack of interest in an event such as the Americas's Cup, of course...

Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
You like your F1/ We are uncivilized rednecks beer drinkers and chips and salsa and you are sophisticated wine drinkers and brie eaters. We like the intricate strategy of football at every position vs. soccer which is very straightforward and much less cerebral...

...Many of them come from dirt tracks etc. Lots of the drivers are 35-45. F1 Boys are rich brats who while they may ridicule the NASCAR guys for riding in a circle wont dare try and go out and "hang" with them. First time one of them would get bump drafted they'd crap in their pants. F1 drivers drive with almost no contact. NASCAR..its the norm in close quarter racing
OK, we get it... You've seen TALLADEGA NIGHTS - The Ballad of Ricky Bobby...

(grin, bigtime)

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