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Re: Cheap Classic Plastic smokes the fleet in 2013 Down the Bay Race

Originally Posted by PCP View Post
What are you talking about? What you say makes not any sense. it is evident that new technologies materials and advancements in design produced faster boats in all conditions.
O.K., so why did a 30 year old design smoke the fleet then? The idea that the incorporation of Open 60 design and technology, computer simulation and design, and other high tech racing ideas into ordinary production sailboats has somehow improved practical sailboat performance (it certainly has made them more expensive) is questionable. Why didn't the new production boats beat the Hobie 33?

Now, we have expensive new production boats that look fast, but may not really be any significantly faster in practice.

Originally Posted by PCP View Post
You are talking about a backwater race where the only two modern racers were a Fart 400 and a TP 52.
Although it may be a small town, Annapolis has some of the best sailboat racers in the world. The Wash., D.C., area is one of the most affluent areas in the U.S. This is hardly a backwater area. Any one is free to enter this race. I suspect some decided not to race after seeing the weather predictions.

Originally Posted by PCP View Post
The fact that the Hobie 33 made a great race regarding that size of boat and was miles ahead of all has nothing to do with a being a boat with a similar performance of a modern carbon designed race, but with the fact that in that race there was not any, not to mention sailed with am equally competent crew.
The point is, the Hobie 33 was designed in 1982 and is low tech, yet it beat most of the boats, boat to boat. High tech has not readily translated into higher speeds for the average production boat. Where is the fast new-tech version of the Hobie 33 and the J/24? Is is possible the design was nearly perfected at that time?

Originally Posted by PCP View Post
If you want to proof your point look at the results of major races ...If that was as you say nobody would buy very expensive top recent sailing boats for racing. They would race in old boats with similar performance (if they existed) that would cost a fraction of the price
I am talking about regular sailboat racing, not Grand Prix stuff. I think many are beginning to realize in average sailboat racing in the U.S. that some of the older designs are still competitive, and that the tremendous advances in technology have not really produced significantly better new boats, just more expensive boats.

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