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Re: Cheap Classic Plastic smokes the fleet in 2013 Down the Bay Race

Originally Posted by PalmettoSailor View Post
... If a new design boat completes a course of sail faster than a older boat design, but looses the "race" because of a handicap system, are you saying those are the results that matter and the old boat is the better boat?
That is not what happened with the Hobie. Most of the new design boats were beaten on elapsed time (real time) by a 30 year old boat. The Hobie 33 finished 4th overall in real time out of 31 boats, most larger, newer and much more expensive. (It corrected to 1st, just as the J/24 corrected to 2nd and still beat a lot of boats in elapsed time.)

Even if you dismiss the results as a reflection of the Hobie's strength on one point of sail, the fact is, it appears no one has built a better Hobie 33 type boat in 30 years of supposed advances in sailboat design and materials.

Originally Posted by PalmettoSailor View Post
Many people see lots of issues with the PHRF ratings, sometimes with diametrically opposed views. Many think the system is flawed if the newer boats don't dominate and others complain if older boats seem uncompetitive.
My point was never about PHRF, although some posters misinterpreted it that way.

My essential point was the fact that an inexpensive 30 year old boat blew the doors off the fleet, despite the constant hype about all the new technological marvels appearing on the water, which have made boats much more expensive, but not correspondingly much more faster.

Perhaps, sailboats are essentially low tech vessels, and the tremendous expenditures to improve their performance with high technology is misplaced and has come at the expense of lower overall participation due to new boat prices.

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