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Re: Cheap Classic Plastic smokes the fleet in 2013 Down the Bay Race

Originally Posted by jameswilson29 View Post
There is a reason why there are races, and actual results.
Results matter.

In sailing, when the wind blows 20-30 knots on the race course, the hype and the B.S. are separated from the reality. These theoretically faster boats are apparently not showing up for the races. ....


... Now, the bulk of boats are either expensive production condo cruisers that appeal to wives at boat shows (and rate no better than the 70s and 80s racer/cruisers of the same LOA), or expensive all-out high-tech racing boats that break fairly easily. ....


There you go again: Today boats are not more expensive than 30 year old boats but less. What kind of price comparison is to compare a used 30 year old boat with a brand new boat?

New boats only don't show in US because US overall picture in what regards sail racing is pretty low. Nobody competing on major races with 30 year old boats in Europe and there are plenty of new boats, that normally win the races that sometimes have more than a 1000 boats racing.

Yes, race results does matter and it is because of that that on major races the ones that comes first on elapsed time in what regards cruiser-racers are recent boats...if they are racing there.

A good example of an American fast boat of that size is the J111, that would beat a Hobie 33 in any conditions, being also a very good upwind sailboat.

The fact that you have J111 racing in almost all European races and almost none racing in what you call major US races (like that one) is sad and shows the difference between sailboat racing interest (and sailing) between the two continents.

Have a look at two other modern boats that will be as faster or more downwind as a Hobie 33 and that will smoke it upwind or in any other point of sail, the Xp 33 and the J111:

None of them is a fragile boat or a carbon boat and by the way where do you got the idea that the carbon race boats are fragile boats or that break easily?



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