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post #18 of Old 05-29-2013
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Re: It's Not Just Containers.....

..and, speaking of untrained crew, don't forget the 'Yogi':

Why Did the Megayacht Yogi Sink?

"Honestly, I don't know why seamen persist in getting wrecked in some of the outlandish places they do, when they can do it in a nice place like Fiji." -- John Caldwell, "Desperate Voyage"
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