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post #86 of Old 08-11-2013
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Re: Full Keel

Originally Posted by bobperry View Post
"Overweight tanks"?

I agree with you and I chuckle when I think back to 1974 when a noted yacht designer writing an article in YACHTING wrote that the Valiant was "too light to be considered a serious offshore boat".

Early this year (stop me if I told you this already) we raced my buddie's Baba 35, pilot house model, in the Race Your House race in Seattle. It's a race for only liveaboards. It was a very varied fleet with Catalinas, Hallberg Rassy's Ingrids, Cape George cutters and other cruising type boats. We had a good breeze with gusts up over 20 knots at times. We got second in class and sailed boat for boat upwind and down with many fin keel boats and did manage to beat a lot of them boat for boat. It was a testimony to what a good, full keel boat could do. We did not point as well as the fin keelers but we only gave up about 4 degrees of AWA to them. It was a kick in the ass to watch the faces of the competitors as we hung in there with them. "What are yoiu doing here?"

I try not to generalize about boat types. Some of my very best designs are the Tashiba series 31, 36 and 40 full keel boats. They can surprise you with their performance. The tall rig Baba/ Tashiba 40 AIRLOOM is a regular race winner on Puget Sound.
Interesting that I ran across this post. I have owned IPs for 25 years but sold my IP420 last year. I have always been drawn to your brilliant designs and decided to 'jump ship' and appease my longing for the double ender 'traditional' full of teak beauties. I have narrowed that search down to a Baba PH 35 and a Tashiba 36. I've sailed neither. My sailing latitudes will be southerly, so I'm not sure of the utility of the PH versus just a full canvas enclosure. I love the layout of the Baba PH 35, albeit I do worry about a window 'blowout' in heavy weather. A friend of mine owns a Tashiba 36. Gorgeous! touts the Tashiba 36 as stiff, fast, and close-winded. Are they more so than the Baba's? I can imagine you are more than tired of answering these types of comparison questions, but I plan for this to be my last sailboat purchase and I would value whatever you would like to share. Your work is amazing, Bob....THANK YOU for the countless hours I've enjoyed simply admiring your sailboats.

Most sincerely,
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