Sailingdog, Thanks for the leads, all sound good but are out of the price range. Southern Cross 31 and 35 would do fine if he can get a deal on one. Assuming the boat comes with no equipment on it his must have short list starts with solar panels, wind generator, SSB, Sextant, GPS. So he can put most of the money into the boat itself. Contessa is rock solid but too 'wet' basically a folkboat on steroids