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Re: Interesting Sailboats

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...This is a public forum. People can voice their opinions here....
I read all the posts. Sometimes I choose to comment, sometimes I don't. Do you have a problem with that? ...
No I don't have a problem with you commenting about the posts and subjects that are being discussed. I am interested in that. I have problems with meaningless posts, unfounded comments or a rude way to address me or other members and I have a problem with you considering that your view on a subject is more valid than others:

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Quoting Vimes "I am sorry, but you obviously did not get my point."...
That happens around here.
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That commenty is just plain silly.
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Chill Paulo. You are not the Pope.
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.. Paulo... obviously feels threatened. ..
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I think you guys are selling chines. You act like car salesmen selling a tacked on spoiler. Are the chines built in China? Is that why you call them "chines"?

I'll say it slowly this time:
I have designed many boats with chines.
Once again:
I have designed many boats with chines.

This is my business. I am not a hobbyist.
I understand chines.
I understand chines

I have owned chined boats.
I have owned chined boats

...

Tsia chien
Shin nien qui ler
....
That is a really stupid statement. ...
Tsai chien
Gong hay fat choy
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Get real Paulo. ....
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Paulo:
You don't get it.
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How do you "dispense" the chines? Rules don't let you throw things overboard while racing.
" Hey wait a minute,,,,Didn't you guys have chines at the beginning of the race?"
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One problem in this thread is to continue to look at this like a 2 dimensional problem. ..

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I love that new X Yacht.
No chines?
They must be behind the times or not know what they are doing.
Or, really know what they are doing. Yes, I think that's it.

Ha!
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Paulo:
The information is all in my last post. Read slowly.

The boat review was the Sun Odessey349. Don't recall the publication but it was English. I think they generally do the best and most honest job. ....

Clear?
(It was not the Sun Odyssey 349 but the Dufour 410, as later Bob Perry remember correctly)

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I rarely shower. I smell like my dogs, I wear woolen shirts. My hair looks funny. I own two pair of shoes. I'm not Euro.

(I do have an amazing, very expensive hi-fi system probably cost as much as your yacht)....
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My mother's maiden name was Nanelli. Does that help?
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The term "skiff" comes from the name of the inventor, Archilbald W. Skiff.
(Bob Perry invented that one)

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Its Wednesday already and I haven't used either of those words yet this week.
Yes, this is a Public forum and this is a public thread but I have being pretty much running this thread. It is not about my opinion but I have been moderating the discussion here, on this thread.

All that are around, viewing it and contributing and made this one of the most popular boat thread on the net know that I try to have an open mind and accept (and thanks) all well founded contributions. They know that I try to integrate all contributions on the body of knowledge and information that this thread contains. If they would not find that way certainly they would stop following this thread.

However I will not allow anybody to have the privilege to be right, just because that's the way he thinks about it, being it a racer, a NA or a cruiser.

Your particular opinion will always be heard with attention, particularly because you are a NA but we are not designing boats and we certainly will not retain your opinion over the opinion of other NAs specially when they are contributing actively to the evolution of sail boat design, as you have done brilliantly in the past.

This thread is about interesting sailboats with a particular focus on the present and the future.

New tendencies and the state of the art in what regards new contributions to sailboat design presented and used by the most significant contemporary NA is of the essence as well to understand them and why they work, since most of them have being proved in racing by those same NAs before using them on their cruising sailboats, many of them mass produced and sailed by thousands.

Off course, Your particular opinion about yacht design, the way you see it and your present work will be of interest to all and I, as I am sure all, are very happy to have you as a member, but regarding that I second what has been proposed already and think it would be very interesting if you open a Bob Perry thread, posted and discussed there your views and your work, instead of doing that on a Steel's boat thread or here.

Of course, you will always be very welcomed here in what regards discussing subjects or boats, but not in this spirit: "I have designed many boats with chines. This is my business. I am not a hobbyist."

On this threads we don't have Popes. You don't need to be an Artist to be a an Art critic. In fact the best Art critics are not Artists and almost never an Artist is on a position to have an overall view of the Art Panorama neither he is on the best position to judge what are the more valid contributions to the contemporary art culture. He is to focused in what he is doing and obviously he thinks that what he is doing is the best and the right way to go.

I believe that is valid also in what regards the contemporary Yacht design Panorama, the subject of this thread.

I don't take pleasure with this kind of posts or discussions so please participate on this thread regarding topics and out of a paternalistic approach. If you do that I am quite sure we all will enjoy and appreciate your contribution.

Regards

Paulo
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