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Re: Pros and cons of steel sailboats

Originally Posted by Brent Swain View Post
As I have pointed out many times, the stability curves of my boats are on the origamiboats site.
Out, here are the "stability curves" from his site. As you can see by the note, they were posted from some dude who was playing with the software and a "simplified 3D model".

New stability curve is available for SINGLE keel BS36 in file section.

AVS=180 deg, Max. Dynamic Heeling Angle ~120 deg.

Based on 3D model. It still not perfect, but more accurate than last one (includes clarifications from Brent for foot well, cabin, pilothouse) and LEAD ballast.

Please note: this model has STEEL mast and boom.

Up until 1984 , we used to cut a 5 1/2 inch sheer in the bulwark plate on the 36. Then I found out that the factory edge makes a good looking sheer , sio started using the factory edge. Some boats are still done with the cut sheer , as some prefer the more traditional sheer , even if it means giving up that much more interior space.
The stabilty curves posted are for the boat with the cut sheer, with about 5 1/2 inches less freeboard amidships. A stability curve with the new factory edge sheer will show a much higher ultimate stability angle. Raising the buoyancy of the cabin , wheelhouse( about ten thosand pounds of buoyancy) as well as the decks, will make a huge increase in ultimate stability.
Brent never has done one himself - he just shops this info around like it's real.

IMUSO, this is about as trustworthy a source as BS himself. So, no, there don't appear to be any valid stability curves for BS boats. Though you guys can judge much better than I.

Originally Posted by Brent Swain View Post
As George worked for West Marine while building this boat, he probably got the nicked and dinged items ,which were perfectly good, but couldn't be sold for cosmetic reasons ,super cheap or free.
Got it. Thanks for the inside info, Brent. So, any buyers out there looking at this boat need to know that all the equipment listed is damaged and was gotten for free. Therefore, apparently the value of the boat is FAR less than the asking price. It actually might be a great deal for a cruiser who wants to bump into things. $3K-4K for a boat? Not bad.
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