[sailaway21]

Jef,
I wouldn't discuss such matters on a sailing forum either if I had such limited knowledge of the facts. When discussing any issue, on any forum, it helps to bring some actual knowledge of the topic to the table. In this particular case more is required than a heart-felt belief that things must be inherently better in a socialized society. If I had advanced the notion that Mussolini made the trains run on time and did a lot to restore Italian pride you might have brought up some unsettling details about his army's slaughter of Ethiopians for target practise or all of that unpleasantness during the late thirties and the forties. These would be valid rebuttals to my arguments in favor of disciplined scheduling of public transportation. Half baked notions of comparing life in Norway to life in Cuba generally engender a response similar to a snort.