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Old 10-18-2007
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Chilli,
The question I responded to was in what model years were the problems described an issue. The change to epoxy and the problems with the structure happened around the same time so I would say any year that predates the change to epoxy is a safe bet. I don’t know the laminate schedule or even what building technique was used so I am not saying anything about epoxy and the cause or effect in this situation. But I am putting a date to the problem.

The rest of your post is just an emotional response which adds fuel to the fire without adding any new information or facts. And of course that’s fine and one of the reasons people post to a forum is that they have something to say and can only say it within the limits of their own experience and knowledge. And by the way just because a person reports a problem publicly don’t assume that only one person has the problem.

You also caution us about the lack of background available to us as far as who is who on this forum. You point out some people don’t have a real name or identity associated with their online persona. You for example just joined and have made two posts. You have no name or background information available on your profile. I on the other hand use my real name and clearly state that I am in the marine business and have been for over thirty years. I am a practicing small craft designer employed to design and build small boats and teach boatbuilding and maritime history. Who are you? What is your background? What is your information or contribution worth? I am not asking in a negative way but just trying to see how you fit into things because with only two posts it’s hard to gauge your skill level or background.

You end by saying,
“Go sailing, have fun. Buy epoxy - it's better. stop the slander and hearsay - it's not good for anyone.”

Thanks for the advice but I will buy what I decide is best for both my style of sailing and budget. Lots of materials are available ranging all the way from wood to metal to composites and each has its advantages and disadvantages. Epoxy is not the end of the line but it’s just another step in the evolution of design and construction and it’s not suitable for everyone and never will be. But your use of the words slander and hearsay concern me. I hope you aren’t implying that I have said or done something inappropriate or dishonest? I think I understand the definition of both words and unless you can point something out that I have forgotten writing I don’t think I have been guilty of either slander or using hearsay to support any position I have taken. My opinions are formed by what I see, hear and read and are supported when necessary by personal experience and quoting the relevant source material. And I try to be very careful and note the difference between my opinion and what I consider facts or common knowledge. This is your second post and it sounds to me like you are accusing me of something. I apologize if I misunderstand you but because you have only two posts so far I don’t see where you’re coming from yet.
All the best,
Robert Gainer
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