[Jeff_H]

Surveys don''t just help with getting insurance.....Surveys are required to buy insurance. BUT what every you do insist on a full purchase survey, and not just an insurance survey. You are looking at high risk boats here, in other words boats that are likely to have problems that far exceed the value of the boats.

When you talk about southern Cal sailing you are talking about predominantly light to moderately light wind sailing. Boats like these two that you mention aren''t much good as sailboats in that venue as they really require more wind to sail even half-way decently.

Jeff