[cardiacpaul]

Second, I truly believe that even the most irresponsible wise up when they're up against reality. What did people do before the Nanny State?

do ya, unfortunatly, most of the windfall lottery millions (that go broke within 5 years say differently)

most of the pigs at the trough in the "dot bomb" would say differently too. I'm hear to tell ya, given 10.00 in the pocket today vs. putting it a savings account, I KNOW what the majority would do.

Get off "what did people do before the nanny state." arguement, it don't fly well.
Heres what people did, They lived on farms,milked cows, with gardens, with their parents, and grandparents, think... the waltons. that WAS the reality, that was the majority. "back in the day"... Of course, the life expenctancey was lower, construction materials were hard to come by, farm equipment was measured in real horses...

Third, I don't care if they don't wise up. The lives of others aren't here for the less willing to mooch off of. That's the nature of free societies, folks.

So, mister sink or swim,
lets say mom and or pops comes down with the big "c" word, whacha gunna do when the private pay insurance runs out, hmm? it will run out you know. According to you, screw 'em, not your fault they didn't plan for that. I guess you don't take second out on your home to help out, nosiree, you tell 'em good luck to ya, damn, that chemo's expensive. Must be your kids are never going to get hurt in an accident, or have to have long term care. Thats really going to suck for them, having to pay their own bills while they don't have a job, can't get work after the recovery, but I understand, its cuz they were too stoopid to plan for all that.
God, I want to see your portfolio.

Heres one to consider.
a fella works for a fortune 100 company. Over 10 yrs at that company, 25 years in the field. "Full" bene's, plus a 6 figure deal. Got it?
good, Heart attack number one.
not bad, insurance pays for all but 43,450.00
disability insurance kicks in, theres 1/2 salary for 6 months. good deal, all is good. except, employer tells guy, "you know, you should stay home". Ok, got it.
Ever try to get a job after a heart attack? hmm, thought not.
Oh, just for giggles, now, slap, boom bang, another heart attack, here you go, heres another bill for what the insurance company didn't pay, that'll be 38,400.00.

Did I forget the insurance? oh yea, cuz the guy ain't drawing a paycheck anymore, you get to go cobra, thats about 1000.00 per month. Need I keep going?

Tell me big guy have you had any rain in your life?

You have got to be kidding, are you truly for a "free society?" good, build your own fricken road, I hope you're good at telecom, 'cuz if you don't pay my prices, you ain't getting on the airwaves unless you buy your own bandwitdh.

Power? there wouldn't be any, hope you can run a stihl and know the difference between a poplar and a locust.
must be your kids can kill their own food. Did you ever take a medication? I'm kinda glad some of the drug companies got a couple of breaks to come up with some that I'm taking. Hey, thats not your fault, but thanks for paying your taxes.
be careful what you ask for. you may just get it and have to deal with the consequences.