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Originally Posted by sck5

For me, the evidence is pretty clear, but even if it isnt for you

But Reality isn't subjective. Further, it's causal. That means that an argument is or isn't valid. So no honest mind cares what you think is right, or what your opponent thinks is right. All an honest mind cares about is what can be proven.

The GW thing has been shown to be wrong any number of ways, yet people with the metaphysics and epistemology that dictate a Left political leaning continue to insist that what warming there is is, a) outside normal range, b) outside inherent thermodynamic traits of our physical reality, c) manmade.

most of the things we should do if we believe it (burn less oil, etc.) are all things that would be a good idea for other purely capitalistic reasons

But burning less oil isn't necessarily good economics, as the price of crude is held high by an adherence to an ethics that has nothing to do with facts (respecting thug ownership, not drilling for more, government involvement making refinement ridiculously complex and/or impossible)

(as well as national security ones - wouldnt you love not to NEED oil from the middle east if it were possible?)

I'd love not to fund thugs. Which is why those wells need to be taken away, and reassigned to rights-respecting concerns. It's also why Gov needs to get out of the energy field.