[sailaway21]

John,
I'm afraid you're wasting your time. You've got one guy who can't read the instructions on how to assemble a swing-set without wondering how the swing-set feels about it. And he probably feels that the directions offered by the manufacturer are just corporate propaganda, to boot.

The other guy is locked in a time warp where it's always late 2002. Life and history ended there.

And then you've got the latest from the peanut gallery, who somehow equates on a moral level misunderstandings about the lips wrapped around one's manhood with misinformation about a country half a world away supplied by the world's intelligence services.

Any one of these vacuous minded individuals could take two minutes to look up the late Mr. Hussein's interviews with the FBI, just before he achieved room temperature, and read where he said that he needed to present himself as having the weapons to maintain his position in the region. The ex-FBI agent/ interrogator has a book out on the matter. None of the three will bother because it's easier to jump to, and hold, conclusions that fit the chic liberal ethos.