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Old 06-21-2008
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I think you wont get your wish. To want a base is to want to stay there forever. If it is their country and they want us out then what right do we have to stay there? Are they allowed to run their own country or arent they? Are we REALLY bringing democracy to them or only if it results in the answers we like?

And I DONT believe we will be there for the next 20 years. I think we will have the vast majority of the troops out within 4 years. With any luck, all of them.

PB

If YOU cant understand that the big difference here is between a candidate that wants us OUT of Iraq and one who either wants us to stay or who is OK with that (being OK with it is a pretty wimpy copout position for a man who wants to be President - McCain himself puts it a lot more strongly than that you know) then it is no wonder that your side is going to lose, and lose big.

Your huge distinctions sound like Clintonian hairsplitting to me, but have it however you like, the big difference is still there between the Dem and the Repub.

And we all ought to be happy about that. It is good for us to have two candidates who are so clearly different. There is no doubt that we will get a very different president depending who we vote for. I like that. Dont you?

And is it really necessary to paint me as some sort of shape shifting lying pile of crap simply because we disagree? I dont doubt you hold your views honestly. Why dont you try to credit me with the same? After all, most of our fellow citizens agree with me - Are a majority of the citizens in the USA lying shapeshifting America haters? Dont be silly. You win some and you lose some, but that doesnt make you a traitor or a liar.
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