The Saber is marginal for PHRF (100-105). Kids are small, 7&4 but really like the NY40 (I think you're the one that first mentioned it to me), lots of boat for the money, but can't find one in fresh water. (not manditory, but prefered) Money wise call it < 200K.
Forgot to mention MUST have wheel steering. That is one of my only issues with some of the J boats.
hunter Legend 37 Semper Paratus
Formerly - Tartan 34C Yawl