[danjarch]

Sck5, I would point out that you as well as everybody else dosn't in fact know that Sadam didn't have WMDs. There are things about WWII that have only recently come to light. Even more is hidden in Russian and other European archieves. I actully agree with you on the opinion that Sadam wasn't an immediat threat to us. I don't think he had WMDs that were any real threat beyond his local area, but we don't know what he really had.

Plenty of crooks get off each year because we can't prove they committed the crime. Twenty or so years from now will know alot more about what really was going on in Iraq under Sadam. Memoirs will be written. Facts will turn up. People from all corners of the world will have little bits and pieces that show what was really going on, but for now, there are still plenty of places WMDs could have been disposed of. Till more time has past I wouldn't make a habit out of bold black and white statements.

This dosn't change my opinion that the dems are blowing in the wind on Iraq and Afganistan. You guys don't have a plan to deal with terrorism. A bunch of words about poverty and can't we all just get along. Well here's the answer, no. Some people don't want to get along.

Take a good listen to what your guy was proposing in Iraq. Bug out, Bug out, Bug out. Guess what going to happen. A big proxy war between Iran, Turkey and Sadi Arabia. Do you really think the turks are going to pass up a chance at all that oil in nothern Iraq. One of the Kudish attacks will be the excuse. Iran will back the shite factions, Saudi Arabia the Suni's, and you know Europe will blame us for the mess even though they keep whining that we should get out. The prices of oil will go though the roof. We'll all pine for four dollar gas.

Mean while back at the homestead. The rest of Obama's platform is basicly letting government make all our decisions for us. They tell us what we can make electricity from, what heath care we're allowed, and so on.

He's flip flopping just like the rest of the party. For the war against the war for the war against the war. Will talk to our enemies, won't talk to our enemies. Going to raise are payroll taxes to help the economy by subsidizing energy products that haven't in thirty years been able to compete. You may choose to believe that it was just a few fringe groups that were against the war in Afganistan but you can only maintain that opinion by disregarding all the statigizing coming out of the DNC about how they needed to look strong on defense. How they needed to distance themselves from the anti war crowd.

No I guess all those articules I've read, All those conversations I had with my very democrat father concerning these things were in my imagination. Yea, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I read and heard them right over the last six years. You guys can't figure yourselves out. Bush's biggest mistake wasn't invading Iraq, it was keeping Rumsfeld and a few other around to long. The invasion of Iraq is only one salvo in a very long war against extremests. This is the new cold war. Only a little hotter. We're in a fight against people who would like to dictate our lives, just like back when we were fighting the Russians.

It's a never ending battle, and has been going on since man has existed. It's pitted country against country, religion against religion, religion against county and vis-a-versa. The team your currently playing for surrendered along time ago and hasn't come across it's back bone ever since.