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Originally Posted by Sailormon6
In order for any politician to be effective, he has to have his own party behind him, and he also has to be able to attract support from the other party. If Lieberman was McCain's running mate, it would fracture the Republican Party, so that, when McCain/Lieberman approached the Democrats to try to negotiate something like social security reform, or REAL health care solutions, they wouldn't be able to muster support from McCain's own party, let alone the support of Democrats, who are not all that enamored of Joe Lieberman, having run him out of his own party on a rail. Therefore, Windy, your dream of uniting both parties by running McCain and an excommunicated Democrat, is not grounded in reality. At least McCain/Romney could negotiate with the Democrats with the benefit of a united Republican Party behind them, along with whatever mandate goes along with the fact that they were elected President and Vice President by the voters. That would obviously give them more bargaining chips than McCain/Lieberman would have, and the American voters aren't going to allow the Democrats to drag their feet and do nothing in Congress much longer. If you really want Congress to accomplish something, you should be complaining vociferously to your local Democrat in Congress about his, or her, extended holidays and vacations and recesses, and their failure to act on these crucial issues.
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Obvious points such as, 1) Congress actually does the business of congress (not the President), 2) That it's a pipe dream that Lieberman would get picked by McCain, etc ... well, the best I can say about that is that I had hopes I could be given the benefit of the doubt so that I wouldn't have to post 5 pages but instead could just post the one paragraph, but I should have known this was Sailnet and that wasn't going to happen.
But on the substance of what was said, that the Republicans wouldn't get behind McCain Lieberman, I actually disagree with that a little bit. McCain Lieberman could be trust brokers as President/VP, because I really think they could get past differences and agree on some key things that really could get support from everyone. Again I said it's a mistake to think I like this combination because they are "moderate", that's untrue, I don't see it as a compromise position between two dualistic extremes, that is only how Democrats and Republicans see it because they always look at each other as "the enemy". I, instead, see McCain Lieberman as a solid platform that can put forth some actual solid plans that could be put into action.
Think of it from the opposite point of view - say Obama wins, for example. WTF is Obama/Biden going to propose that enough moderate Republicans and Democrat's are both going to support to do anybody any good ? I mean, seriously. Obama could tell Republicans that he wants to eat at Wendy's and Republicans would fight and say no they want to go to Subway. Can Obama Biden actually propose ANYTHING that Republicans are going to support ? Hell no. And you Democrats out there, are you going to support ANYTHING that Romney supports ? McCain Lieberman could put together real plans that could leave all the special interests sitting outside shivering in the cold.