[sailingfool]

Hey, I understand SF Bay to be just like ocean sailing - gets a bit of a breeze - a boat suitable for its demands doesn''t fit with lake-sailing, nor perhaps with trailering. To my eye, the boats you mention are first-timer toy boats, and I''d not want to take my family out on one in an ocean setting. Skip ''em, and get a well-constructed boat with a fixed keel that will serve you well in that area. I personally don''t think you should pass on quality, recent model boats, pay a premium for a quality boat in premium condition and you will have a lot less hassle than you''d face in fixing all the stuff you will bust on one of those toys in SF Bay! Check out the area Cals and Catalinas - just pay for quality and hope you get what you pay for.

Good luck.