[Jeff_H]

While I like your line "a dogfight between gentleman dogs", I prefer to think that Jack and I are having a healthy discourse, exchanging ideas and trying to determine what we agree on and perhaps reach an understanding of where the other is coming from on those areas that we are not in agreement on. I have developed a lot of respect for Jack and his opinions. This kind of discussion is not about winning or proving the other person wrong as much as putting out a set of ideas for all sides to examine and explore in as intellectually honest a manner as we can muster. Thats a good thing for all involved. I was particularly intrigued with Jack''s point that well maintained and updated boats do not remain static and have been thinking about this idea at odd moments throughout the day.

Respectfully,
Jeff