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Old 01-13-2004
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Powerboat Cruising info needed

Thank you everyone for the input. But we are way off track from the original question. I know the boat needs work. I know it''s a money pit. I know what “Paravane” systems are and was using the term "flopperstopper" (which I know is a brand name for a plastic mushroom shaped steadying mechanism used at anchor) loosely just like Beebe himself along with James Leishman did in his book. And most other people do as well. Similar to saying Band-Aid when you mean adhesive strip or Q-tip when you mean cotton swab. I don’t know what a paravane system costs. Or if it can even be added to the boat in question.

The original question re-phrased is: What seas if any can this hull type or design handle. Does anyone have experience with this type of boat? It''s from Seattle (part of the Pacific NW) and it''s still around, so it must have some ocean handling design built in, no?

1933 built of single plank construction.
40'' LOA - 38'' LWL - 12''6" Beam - 20K Disp. - 120hp Lehman Diesel - 360gallons fuel - approx range of 1000nm - no steadying mechanism currently – Assuming I make good repairs and add electronics.

What size swell, head on would send this boat back to harbor? 6ft seas? 12ft seas?

What size beam sea would send it back to harbor?

What size following sea would send it back?

How much wind would send it back? 15knots? 20knots?

I see that it has a lot of window space. But I see a lot of trawlers with even more. Any comment on storm handling of this much glass?

The A/B ratio of this boat is very good compared to Trawlers that look to be several stories tall, relatively speaking. Yet the Trawler copies are able to travel the coast regularly.

Perhaps Freeboard is not enough on this boat?

Is the bow to low or shaped wrong for Ocean work?

In Beebe’s book he details some basic design characteristics for voyaging. He recommends a minimum of 38 feet LWL. This boat meets it. He recommends a low A/B. This boat meets it. He recommends low HP and speed ratio of 1.2. This boat meets it. He recommends a separate pilot-house (from salon) for night vision. This boat meets it. He recommends a range of 2400nm which this boat does not meet but I plan to stay along the coast and not cross oceans.

What he does not recommend is an antique boat. Which is why I wanted to ask if anyone had experience with old boats like this.

Perhaps the answer might be that this boat is only capable of good weather voyaging for short day hops up and down the coast. Ducking into harbors at any sign of weather or before dark. Perhaps I can only venture south of SF Bay and should stay away from north.

Thanks again. Gene-
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