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tjr3c,

I think Jack & Jeff have made a reasonable presentation here. You''ve put words in their mouths or misrepresented what they''ve said in the attempt to support your own opinions. Both of these fellows have a well known base of experience they pull from & offer it freely. Many benefit from their thoughts on various topics.

So far you''ve demonstrated you have a mouth and ample talent to reference marketeers as sources of truth. The success of the infomercials that fill the airwaves do not prove what they hawk are great products...rather their success fullfills H.L. Mencken''s view that "No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." As a previous poster has asked...What is your experience in all things sailing? Do you just parrot marketeers or do you have some personal knowledge and insight here? Does your "game" go beyond your keyboard?