[jeffls]

So would you consider the greatest good for the greatest amount of people is best? If so that is the fundamental argument for socialism which is not a permanent structure but the bridge between democratic capitalism and communism. And government decides what is that greatest good? Or would you say individual freedom and rights at all costs? As for our past leaders and creators of the constitution here is what they would have to day today regarding what was best.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. – Benjamin Franklin

Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. – George Washington

A wise and frugal government which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government. – Thomas Jefferson (1801)

It is not the responsibility of the government or the legal system to protect a citizen from himself. – Justice Casey Percell

The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests. – Patrick Henry

If we were directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we would soon want for bread. – Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. – Thomas Jefferson

As for socialist policies and increasing welfare....

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. – Thomas Jefferson

So...democracy is not taking from the brightest to hold up the weakest. It is not for the whim of a majority to decide on what the policy of the day will be if it is fundamentally contrary to the purpose of our existence as a nation. The constitution protects us against the govt from telling us what is in our best interets in production and trade and our daily lives and from the majority telling us what is in our best interests to the same. Sonewhere along the line we lost that meaning.