OR?? Cheapest is BEST - Right?? Oh crap, wrong Forum . . . . . I though this was for RV's . . . . . . . . .lol
TO QOUTE; "You're beginning to sound like an advertisement for the 802 marine products, which are overpriced junk IMHO. I'm also beginning to think you don't know what you're talking about, since Ubiqiti doesn't have a product called the Ubiqiti 5
AFAIK"
For sailing dog edification and everyone else's entertainment:
Sorry sailingdog, these commercial units are not on the market yet. But YOU know they are junk right? Is this true colors times??
You say "junk" Oh what's that inside?? The chip sets for both manufacturers, come from the same OEM. That would be, Atheros and the solder ball work for the mother boards, are the same OEM too. Hmmmmmm. Oh, that.
But I don't know what I am doing, just relying on stats on-line and experts words.
As "YOU" mentioned, the Ubiquiti Networks NanoStation I assumed you meant the 5, their best one not the 2) in your previous note, So, I took a look to see it on their site - and there it IS!!, little PoE thing, $79.00 Oh - and there's the 5 that does not exist and so it doesn't cost $89.00 (both available at hundreds of sites including XXXXX dot com)
And as you say only needs "one wire" and doesn't need the required 2 CAT5 ethernet cables, a PoE injector and a power supply they state in their specs. And although it does not exist, it is rated at 26dbM which is great, nice little unit. (IF it existed, as seen at their site under NaoStations)
the
PASSPORT802.ULTRA's are $59.00 MSRP Which has no installation, USB plug and play. Completely different animal. Take it out of your pocket and plug it in, turn on your computer and go. 10 foot USB ext, no problem. It is not the same device or cost but does offers the ability to add an antenna via RP SMA for a little greater signal strength. These are FCC Certified; 28dBm
Maybe my math is different here but it seems that 59 is 30 less than 89.
PASSPORT802 is a 200mW is $39.99 USB plug and play, super compact, really convenient too - there are several out there like these. These are rated at FCC Certified; 23dBm
Also no set up, plug and play, USB and go anywhere IS NOT 2 ethernet cables and a PoE injector and an external power supply.
Now let's see $39.00 - $79.00, $39.00 - $79.00, $39.00 - $79.00 hmmmmm, oh well, I'll have to get back to this later - I need a calculator.
Different devices completely. So . . oh well.
I am sure these are all real good, but I have not seen anything that cheap with that power rating or convenience - thus I just thought I would talk about them. (but I don't have clue anyway)
And of course there's that Ubiquiti Networks SR71-USB WLAN !!! - at only $113.00
Let's see, I guess that's 5 times as much as the
PASPORT802 ?? (lol, Sorry had to do it, just trying to imitate geo bush)
And how about that BBX gear folks?? THE GOOD STUFF!!
BBX - 500mW Client/ WLAN Bridge, ONLY $899.00, CAT5 ethernet PoE injector and the perverbial antenna extra required. 110V AC of course (now that's covenient) PoE CAT 5 cables, power supply, etc. INCLUDED!! (just a buck)
AND THE HIGH PRICE AWARD WINNER IS:
The BBX - 100mW USB unit for $89.00 !! A USB plug and play unit, nice and compact too, but really spendy for the what you get. ($40 all over the net and eBay too)
The "
PORTSIDE802" I believe is marketed as a lesser cost commercial grade solution to the really expensive commercial duty boxes, not the little ones for in close in use and certainly not "hoist it up the mast" types And they have a built in router option and are AP configurable as servers. I think that's the PASSPORT units - little USB devices you should have been comparing to sailingdog. I don't see many Ubiquiti NanoStations or PicoStations pinned up on Marina roofs serving signals to hundreds of vessels or mounted on ClearWire, AT&T and SPRINT towers.
And for those who are interested, the engineers tell me the jumps between 500mW, 600mW up to 1,000mW are huge steps that require completely different chip sets for each of the incremental steps up. But what do they know. Engineers, phooey, what do they know. By the way, when I asked them about the chip sets, they said Ubiquiti products are real good stuff, just a different market and application focus and a little more expensive - but good stuff for their market. Am I promoting
802Marine stuff ?? I guess I am and let me ADD !!! FURUNO, MAXSEA, MAPTECH, ICOM, GPSNavX, XAXERO, GLOBAL MARINE NETWORKS, DIGITAL ANTENNA, MORAD, IRIDIUM, ANCOR, LINKSYS, HP, CARL ZEISS, NIKON and SONY-no bologna) !!! GOOD STUFF AND EXPENSIVE TOO. Oh yeah, PORT TOWNSEND SAILS TOO!!! THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON MY BOAT. THAT'S WHAT I USE. I DO NOT USE GARMIN or SNOOGYLOOGY OR . . . .
BUT now, I hear mentioned a NEW previously UNMENTIONED device in the last post, the Ubiquiti PicoStation 2HP. And you just hoist it up the stick.
Now that's what I call convenient (lol)
Maybe you need to read a little closer, I did not compare or endorse or wish to "advertise" the
PASSPORT802.ULTRA (but at the price, it's a great little device) BUT is not the same as the Ubiquiti 2 or 5 - as stated, different animal, different application.
I'll put it in my son's word's after he read this thread: "dude, 2 completely different products and applications . . . . . . " I will leave out the rest. Well, he's only 35 and a little wet behind the ears - but you otta see him type, pretty damn fast!
So since I don't know what I am talking about, I suggest people go to the Ubiquiti site and check out all of the products they make (that don't exist of course - good stuff for the market as far as I am told and as i can see)
As i said before: It's confusing and you need to look CLOSELY at the specs, and the prices. USB ?/ CAT 5 PoE?? external antenna, long range box or pocket take it with you when you go. Who are you and what do you need?? "I stay in the Marina", "I go out now and then", i am going coastal and inland", "I am blue water rigged, world traveling" Check em all out and config for budget and application..
As far as your (sailingdog's) weird statement "I do not know what I am talking about" i think what you mean is the manufacturers and engineers I talk to "don't know what THEY are talking about" I am just a consumer, and do not claim to an expert, just a hard core shopper with a with a boat and a high tech background in other completely unrelated passive audio electronics fields. Just a Note: I DO know this, you will find that I do not post a reply to every thread on every subject in every Forum category on the sailnet site.
Forums are cool and everything, but i am trying hard to have a life.
Oh well, I am happy, my
PORTSIDE802 box works great and I have one single nice LMR400DB cable going out to the antenna just like my VHF and my DSLREPORTS DOT COM data throughput tests results are "rockin"!!! and i get signals everywhere i go up and down the greater Puget Sound region and up and down the Pacific Coast.
Safe sail all . . . .