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Originally Posted by TropicCat

Umm, not exactly. 'W' was tax cut and spend. As his people sold congress on the Bush new math. Which was Cut taxes and watch tax revenue grow. I published the tax revenue chart for the period in this thread. Suffice it to say that tax revenues did not grow. It was all snake oil.

I didn't get a tax cut under Bush.

Originally Posted by TropicCat

As for Obama. The guy doesn't have a choice. He has to spend or we'll all be cooking over camp fires. Hyperinflation is now built in to our budget.

He reads what the teleprompter says. Even so, I still kind of like the guy. He just seems so naive, is the problem. He is allowing others to dictate policy, both foreign and domestic, and they are the same old clique: Council on Foreign Relations. That's why the Obama administration actually looks a lot like the Bush administration.

Obama has announced his clear intent to legalize the illegal aliens now in America. Similarly, Obama shows a clear disregard for policing our southern border.

Obama has usurped the upcoming census and placed it under the control of ACORN, the private association of hired guns proven to have committed so much election fraud during the past two elections. Guess what is about to happen to the reported demographics that determine electoral districts and representatives - not that it will make any difference, that is?

In a very recent appellate court hearing (Jewel v. NSA), Obama's Justice Department lawyers actually argued for even greater immunity in conducting warrantless wiretapping of Americans than did Bush's! As a candidate for the Presidency, Obama decried the use of what is known as the "state secrets" privilege by the Bush administration. Yet, as President, Obama now argues for its unprecedented extension, so as to provide unlimited immunity to the government for spying on all of us.

The only reason that congress is not moving forward with Obama's expressed desire to confiscate our guns is the fact that his election created such a boom in gun and ammunition sales that many stores post a picture of President Obama with the legend "Salesman of the Year" beneath it. And just try to go buy ammunition these days.

No, hyperinflation fixes the problem. When a loaf of bread becomes $10.00 you know we just reduced our National Debt by 2/3's.

Hyperinflation doesn't fix the middle class.

Umm...no. That's internet conspiracy stuff. That coin was cast, and they are selling them today to anyone who wants one. It was never currency. Google this thread, it's already been disproved here. And I mean DISPROVED. There's even a link where you can buy your own Amero this afternoon.

You make some good points and then get caught up in conspiracy theories. Stick to the facts and you'll do fine here.

Ummm... you need to read my post again. I said "it's been suggested." When powerful people and organizations float such an idea, it's best to squash it immediately.

The North American Union and Amero are not "internet conspiracy theories." The North American Union (NAU) has been openly discussed and proposed among government officials with business leaders in academic and scholarly circles for many decades.

The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) was founded by the governments of Canada, Mexico and the United States in March 2005 to dramatically alter the economic and political status quo between said countries, as proven by the subsequent publication in May 2005, by the Independent Task Force on North America, of a report which praised the SPP initiative and called for much greater integration by 2010.

A broad spectrum of politicos criticize the secrecy of the SPP and its dominance by multinational business entities and its plans to expand the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) into a North American Union analogous to the European Union (EU), with open borders and a common currency among other features.

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) recommended that in order to safely globalize the world we must "abandon unwanted currencies, replacing them with multinational currencies as yet unborn." Lending support for the end of national currencies, the traitors at the Federal Reserve Bank coauthored a journal article that argued the economical prudence of a common currency between nations, "The use of different moneys across borders can form a barrier as there are costs in exchanging currencies in spot and forward markets and traders face uncertainty about currency movements that cannot always be hedged. A common currency also leads to greater transparency of price differentials." The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is composed of some of the most evil men and women ever to inhabit Washington, DC.

Why else do you think that CFR-member bankers are being bailed out right and left while we are left to flail hopelessly in an ever-rising tide of debt and regulation? Why else do you think that AIG, which still pays its executives million-dollar bonuses for failing, is given billions upon billions of our tax dollars, which it then dutifully funnels to the banks and congressional pension funds that it insures? Why else do you think that major corporations that should have gone under long ago are being shored up with your tax dollars? Not to save the workers' jobs, because our "leaders" certainly care nothing for them, but to save the banks and insurance companies who have propped up those failing corporations.

Just as Russia was looted late last century and left for dead, so is America now being looted. America will be left just as hollowed out as was Russia, unless we do something about it and do it quickly.

The amero would be the North American Union's counterpart to the euro, as endorsed by the Fraser Institute think-tank. Robert Pastor, vice-chairman of the Independent Task Force on North America, also supported the idea in his 2001 book Toward a North American Community. The neoconservative Howe Institute also advocates the creation of the Amero. And Former Mexican President Vicente Fox jumped aboard the Amero bandwagon with great enthusiasm.

In September 2006, U.S. Representative Virgil Goode proposed with six co-sponsors non-binding House Concurrent Resolution 487, which specifically outlined opposition to a North American Union or a NAFTA Superhighway as a threat to U.S. sovereignty. The bill never left committee. The same resolution was reintroduced by Goode in January 2007 for the 110th Congress as House Concurrent Resolution 40, this time with forty-three cosponsors, including 2008 Republican presidential candidates Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo.

The neocons and progressives for tens years prior to the adoption of NAFTA described opposition groups as "neo-nazi, protectionist conspiracy nuts." Fact is, it's adoption did exactly what the "nuts" had predicted. It decimated much of what was left of our industrial base.