Well Tree I tried to think like you but I have not found a used on that will work yet. I tried Ebay and a couple of other places. Don''s Salvage in the Tampa St Pete area has some and Sailorman in Ft Lauderdale on St Rd 84 has a couple. Other than that I have not found any that are cheep or salvage. If the guy who posted about Tops-In-Quality would post the web address or a phone number I would sure be glad to get it. I am going to have one made for my boat a Catalina 38 if anyone knows about one that might fit let me know .