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Old 06-21-2009
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Cam, you are so full of poop on this that your eyes are brown!

There are MANY pages of this thread about Enchiladas......for instance!
I would, of course, never go off subject like that, but then again you didn't have hissy fits when your friends spent pages of "your" thread on that. And make no mistake about it - this is YOUR thread. It is not a discussion. It is just you yelling louder and louder until you "win", or you getting angry when anyone presents a POV that you don't agree with.

A perfect example of the intelligence of the right wing. If ideas don't work, first piss on the debate. If that doesn't work, pull out a gun. If that doesn't work, pull out a bigger gun. Sooner of later, you will "win".

Silly man.......

As to Global Warming, again there is no doubt it is happening. What percentage of it is man-made is up for discussion.

One example is the planting zones for crops and trees in this country. The map has changed greatly in the last couple decades. This is from totally non-political perspectives.

The Arbor Day Foundation, for instance, publishes a map of changes in just the last 16 years:
The Arbor Day Foundation

Notice that the vast percentage - virtually ALL the changes are to the warmer temps...not colder.
"Significant portions of many states have shifted at least one full hardiness zone. Much of Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio, for example, have shifted from Zone 5 to a warmer Zone 6. Some areas around the country have even warmed two full zones."

Those are some major changes! And, they are consistent over MILLIONS of square miles.

Of course, 16 years of data is not enough to make the case for science. We have to keep an eye on it. But not with one eye closed and our minds shut off. That has never worked too well.
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