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Witzgall-
" OR could both the "NEW" starter, and the old one, both have bad solenoids? " Could be, but more likely it is a wiring/switch problem and you are not getting power To the starter solenoid.
Stop at any library, any auto repair manual goes over the basics of how to test starters and alternators and they are pretty much all the same for any common car, same for most boats.
Most of the auto chain stores (i.e. Pep Boys, Autozone) will test both the starter and alternator for free if you bring them in--although the staff are often minimum wage and not always the sharpest pencils. If in doubt, let two different places test them for you, and go when the store is not hectic.
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