[wind_magic]

Cruisingdad,

I thought it would be better to bring part of the discussion over from the market thread to this one.

I totally identify with what you were saying about the impact that a real breakdown in the economy would have on most people in the country, it speaks to the core of the rural point of view, self-reliance. I hope it never comes to the point that urban people have to be self-reliant again, because it would be a real shift in world view for most of them, a dramatic and painful shift.

You asked how many people could feed themselves, etc, if things got too bad, around here people really can and do feed themselves, shelter themselves, etc. In rural America people really are self-reliant, I don't mean in small town Walmart America, I mean out where the pavement ends.