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well jack the funny thing about Patrick Moore, is green peace thru him out when he changed his views. basicly i think he said after many years of looking at the numbers nuke is best, ie it causes the least damage. i wish i could find the actual quote.
yamsailor, your right if its natural the discussion is over, but where the real problem comes in is. the people pushing green stuff have a vested future, both in money invested and jobs. they can not and will not drop it. if they do accept its natural they will still say we can help stop it, because their lively hood depends on it.
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