[jackdale]

Originally Posted by scottyt

yamsailor, your right if its natural the discussion is over, but where the real problem comes in is. the people pushing green stuff have a vested future, both in money invested and jobs. they can not and will not drop it. if they do accept its natural they will still say we can help stop it, because their lively hood depends on it.

While nature does contribute - so do we. We cannot separate the two. They exacerbate each other. It is not an either / or situation, but more a want can we do - or not so.