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post #11 of Old 11-17-2009
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Originally Posted by CrazyRu View Post
1. There is a boat with word “Ocean” in its make.
2. The boat has point of vanishing stability of 109 degree.

I have no problem with either fact as separate entities.
However I’m having problem with company making a boat with point of vanishing stability of 109 and calling it “Oceanis”.
I know, I’m weirdo…

And, I think that potential buyer needs to read to this line, at least…

Contributory Causes and Underlying Factors

4. The skipper’s over-optimism about the ability of Ocean Madam to
withstand heavy weather and breaking waves.
The debate about Beneteaus and the like have raged on for quite some time, and I won't rehash that here. Obviously there are boats out there of more robust construction. That said, I will note that indicting an entire brand because one 39' boat, no longer in production, with three crew, 2 of which were not sailors, capsized in a Force 9 storm in the Atlantic Ocean 12 years ago, really not does advance your argument very far. Many, MANY, serious bluewater boats have been rolled in the world's oceans in that kind of weather. And many, MANY, Beneteaus have crossed oceans and withstood heavy weather. Pointing to one incident and extrapolating from that, either way, is not sound logic or reasoning.

I do agree, as I've said several times, that mass production boats are not as stoutly built as certain other more limited production models. But telling a guy who specifically stated that he wants a boat for coastal cruising and living aboard not to buy a Beneteau because of this one story really doesn't do the poster any favors and really leads him astray, IMHO.

Not picking a fight with you, just my opinion, and I didn't want the OP to get the impression that a Beneteau (or Hunter, Catalina, Jeanneau, Hanse, etc.) is not suitable for his stated intended use.

Dan Goldberg

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