[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Bene505

Jack,

If it's part of a rational conversation, can you at least provide the text you are quoting? Or do you mean to attempt to appear aloof and above anyone who can't reverse-quote chapter and verse? Don't think that's the case, so the text might be good.

Regards,
Brad

Brad - normally I would quote chapter and verse from the King James version. However, I have had folks tell me that they reject that translation.

But I will do so.

Daniel 2:21

And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:

Romans 13:1

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Titus 3:1

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

1 Peter 2:13

Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;

1 Timothy 2:1-2

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

BTW - I personally do not hold the Bible as the true word. But I do like some of the sentiments. I presented these because is the OP has used scripture as a foundation of belief.

The source is these is Biblos.com: Search, Read, Study the Bible in Many Languages. It includes most the current translations.

Jack