Hey - one thing I never quite got clear...
Was the strength of the China steel in the current Rocna lower than the current Manson Supreme?
There has never been one made in china that even remotely comes near the specs of the supreme and that goes back to 2008.
Canadian and NZ ones, yes they were of equal strength.
The current ones are, as told by the CEO, "fit for use" and the steel strength is now claimed as "confidential".