I sailed on one back in 1978 we won our div. in the queens cup and Mac races on lake Mi. I was only 13 and did a great deal of the helm shifts in the races. The owner (my boss) sold Cals, Newports, C&C's, Helms, Mirages and other great boats. I worked for the Sailing center for several years. The year after we raced a Mirage 28 it was not as successful as the Helm's. I rate it as the best 30 I sailed! The helms 25 is also a great boat. You will love everything about the helms 30.