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Ray.. do you know the designer of record for the Fraser boats, then? I seem to recall that the first was designed by an airline pilot..

This is the story I heard. An airline pilot designed what he thought would be the perfect sailboat. He built a mold and laid up three boats, one for him and two others for friends. This may have been in the late 60's or early 70's. The DeKleer brothers got the hull mold. Aire and his brother laid up hulls and then sold them to owners to finish them up. Aire and his brother also laid up some Bristol Channel Cutters and some Endurance 35's and three of the Fraser 51's. Aire said the lay up they did on their hulls was robust by today's standards. He was very proud at how strong their boats were. He said that in the big Cabo storm in the early 80's, several boats were washed up on the beach and destroyed. Three boats were salvageable. A steel boat owned by some famous French cruiser, a DeKleer Built Bristol Channel Cutter and a DeKleer built Endurance 35. They pushed the Endurance off the beach with a bulldozer. It was sailed up by the owner and refurbished. The owner of the boat confirmed this account on another sailing website.

Anyway, the way I understand it is that the Frasers the DeKleers were building way back were the Fraser 42's, which was a center cockpit boat. Now along comes a fellow named Roy (can't remember last) He liked the 42 hull. He didn't care for the center cockpit top through. He bought a hull from the DeKleers. He went over to Spencer Yachts and bought an aft cockpit top from them and married up a Spencer top to a DeKleer Hull and made the first aft cockpit Fraser. The DeKleer brothers heard what he was up to and came to take a look at Roy's boat. They liked it. They took some measurements and molded their own aft cockpit top. They reversed the transom on their 42 hull, making their new boat a 41 footer. The Fraser 41 was born.

Roy and his wife went cruising on their first aft cockpit boat named "Full Sail" They got down south and learned that a grand child had been born back home in British Columbia. Mrs. Roy didn't want to miss her grand child growing up, so they quit cruising and sold their boat and went back home. A couple years ago Roy told me that he had heard that Full Sail was still down in Australia or New Zealand.

Now some of the information I got on the airline pilot designer came from a fellow who emailed me and said he was a son to one of the pilots involved in the building of the first three Fraser hulls. He was unaware of Roy and "Full Sail" I don't remember that guy's name now.

Aire DeKleer was still alive a few years ago. He still had files on all his boats and said if I had a hull number, he could pull the file on that particular boat. He was a snowbird when I talked to him last, wintering down south in the states I think, but summering back in British Columbia.

Tin Pusher. You're welcome to come down and take a look at Nikko. You may need to get your post count up to ten on sailnet so you can send and receive private messages. I'll try sending a PM now so you'll have my email address.

S.V. Nikko
1983 Fraser 41
La Conner, WA

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