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Interesting Sailboats

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Sirius 32, Sirius 35

THE OBJECT OF THIS THREAD:

Interesting sailboats in production and available on the new boat market (only boats with modern designs, meaning that the boats still in production but made with old designs are out). Recent designs out of production are also admissible.

Modern boat designs and modern one off, if interesting.

Classical boats and traditional boats.

Small cruisers (less than 35ft)

Seezunge 27ft: PG1-PT9

Hanse 325: PG19-PT185;

Presto 30 : 33-326; 33-327; 34-331; 34-333; 55-543; 55-544;

Tess Yachts: 37-366; 38-373;

Tess 28 Magnum: 37-369; 38-371;

Delphia 28: 38-373;

Vancouver 27/28 : 42-412; 72-717;

Cruisers between 35ft and 49ft


Catalina 355 : 31-306;

RM sailboats: PG5-PT41; 5-42

RM1050: PG5-PT46; 5-47; 5-48;

RM 1060: PG8-PT77; 8-78; 8-79; 8-80; 9-81; 30-295; 40-400; 79-786;

RM 1200: PG9-PT84; 9-85; 19-184; 20-191; 20-192; 41-404; 42-414; 42-418; 43-425; 43-426; 69-688;

RM 1350: PG9-PT82; 55-549; 95-943;

Morris Yachts: PG7-PT61

Bavaria 36: PG19-PT188; 19-190; 20-196;

Bavaria 40: PG10-PT95; 28-278; 29-281; 29-282; 29-283; 29-286; 32-316; 36-356; 51-502; 51-507; 52-518; 53-527; 53-532;

Bavaria 40s: 69-685; 78-775;

Bavaria 45: PG10-PT96; 19-190;

Rustler Yachts: PG11-PT104;

Jeanneau 409: PG11-PT103: 11-106; 30-298; 30-299; 36-356; 51-502; 51-504; 51-505; 51-509; 52-513; 52-514; 52-515; 52-516; 53-527; 54-532; 57-564; 57-570; 58-571; 58-580; 59-581; 59-583; 59-585; 62-614; 74-739; 91-906;

Jeanneau 439: 40-396; 40-397; 59-584; 59-585; 96-956;

Hanse Yachts: 16-154; 16-156; 16-158;

Hanse 400: 81-804;

Bluewater cruising yachts: 21-206

Beneteau Oceanis 37 : 31-306; 31-308; 31-309; 32-314; 55-541;

XC 38: 36-356; 96-954;

Diva 38: 39-386;

Diva 35: 40-391;

Dufour 405: 62-614;

Defline 43: 63-622

Walkabout 43: 93-923; 93-925; 93-927;

Small performance cruisers (less than 35ft)


Performance 32ft test: 29-87;

Sun Fast 3200: PG4-PT33; 4-34; 4-36; 30-293;

Elan 210: 70-691; 70-696; 78-779; 79-781;

Elan 310: PC7-PT64; 7-69; 8-71; 36-356; 41-408;

Quest 33: PG7-PT62

Olea 32: 25-243; 25-245;

First 27.7: 38-373; 38-380; 39-382;

First 30: 30-295; 39-356; 41-408; 55-545; 55-546;

Comet 26: 34-340; 35-345; 35-350; 36-353;

Pacer 30: 36-357;

Django 7.7: 40-399;

Vivace/Evosion 34: 45-442; 45-446; 45-445; 45-446; 45-447; 45-448; 45-449; 45-450; 46-458; 46-460;

Finn Flyer 34: 46-451; 46-453; 60-593;

Salona 34: 46-457;

Heol 7.4: 63-621; 63-622;

Azuree 33: 87-867; 91-902; 91-904;

JPK 10.10: 88-877 ; 88-880; 89-883;

Performance cruisers (between 35ft and 49ft)

Pogo 10.50: PG2-PT20; 3-27; 3-28; 3-30; 4-35; 5-50; 6-51; 6-52; 6-60; 11-101; 11-107; 11-110; 43-425; 44-440; 87-861; 87-867;

Pogo 12.50: PG13-PT125; 20-198; 20-199; 22-214; 27-264; 27-265; 27-269; 32-317; 32-319; 43-425; 43-426; 43-428; 44-432; 44-437; 44-439; 55-546; 55-547; 82-812; 84-831; 87-870;

Este 40: 89-890; 90-893; 90-899;

A35: PG5-PT42; 5-44; 66-660;

A40RC: 92-914;

Hammerhead 35: 64-645

Opium 39: PG5-PT42; 9-85; 9-89; 13-125; 22-220; 22-221; 43-426; 55-547; 86-857;

Aerodyne 35: PG7-PT62

Elan 350: PG7-PT64; 13-24; 13-126; 13-127; 13-128; 14-132; 18-178; 26-255; 36-356; 40-398; 41-405; 57-564; 59-589; 60-591; 72-711; 73-724; 74-738;

Elan 380: 23-223; 25-249; 26-256; 40-398; 59-589; 97-962;

Elan 410: 32-316; 79-784;

JPK 110: PG9-PT85; 10-91

Olea 44: PG10-PT100; 27-268;

Olea Yachts: 25-247;

Dufour 40e: Pg13-Pt125; 32-316; 55-547; 56-558; 56-559; 57-561; 57-562; 57-563; 59-586; 59-588,

Salona 37: 36-359; 41-406;

Salona 41: PG15-PT141; 15-145; 32-316; 36-356; 40-398; 54-538; 57-569; 78-778; 80-796; 80-798; 97-965;

Salona 42: PG15-PT145; 36-359; 40-398; 93-929; 94-932;

Cigale 16: PG15-PT148; 16-152; 17-161; 55-549; 63-625;

Cigale 14: PG17-PT163; 55-549;

Santa Cruz 43: PG17-PT169

Sydney Yachts: PG18-PT171; 18-175;

Sydney GTS 37: 43-423;

Sydney GTS 43: PG18-PT173;

Winner 12.20: PG20-193;

First 40: 31-304; 32-313; 32-316; 35-344; 36-354; 55-546; 55-547;

First 35: 36-356

Dehler 41: 30-296;

Dehler 44: 79-785;

Dehler 45: 36-356; 79-785;

Luffe 40.04: 30-300; 31-301; 31-303;

XP 38: 56-533; 56-544; 56-555; 67-622;

XP 44: 33-325;

Pacer 430: 36-357;

Pacer 376: 36-357; 66-652; 69-683;

Faurby 424: 36-360; 37-361; 37-363; 37-365;

Comfortina 39: 40-395;

J 133: 43-426; 63-620

J 111: 100-993;

Maxi 11: 99-982;

Arcona yachts: 46-456;

Arcona 410: 47-467; 47-468; 47-469; 48-471;

Arcona 430: 48-472;

Arcona 460: 50-495

Finngulf yachts: 46-456;

Varianta 44: 60-594; 60-595; 60-596; 60-597; 60-598; 64-639;

Imagine 53: 63-628;

Zou 40.2: 63-620

Ker 39: 68-676;

Finn-Flyer 42: 77-762;

Azuree 40: 85-842;

Loft 40: 85-848; 85-852;

Vivace 35: 90-895;

Sailing boats over 49ft

Zeydon 60 : PG 12-119;

JP 54: PG18-PT172;

Salona 60: 70-695;

Stadships: PG20-PT193; 20-195;

Pogo 50: 32-318; 32-319;

X-50: 54-537;

Murtic 52: 54-537;

Decksaloons and pilot house sailing boats

Sirius 32: PG1-PT1

Sirius 35: PG1-PT1; 1-10; 2-18; 50-491; 50-492; 60-559; 60-599;

Sirius 31: PG1-PT5; 2-17; 36-356;

Regina 35: 48-478;

Regina 40: PG11-PT104; 49-481; 49-483;

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Luffe 43DS: PG12-PT111; 12-115; 50-494;

Noordkaper 40: PG14-pt139;

Noordkaper yachts: PG16-PT155

Nordship 36: 30-297; 49-482;

Nordship 38: 49-482; 49-490;

Paulo's pilot house I: 38-376; 39-381; 39-383; 39-384;

Paulo's pilot house II: 69-682

Lyman & Morse 45: 38-379;

CR 38DS: 48-477; 48-478;

CR 40DS: 48-476; 48-478; 48-479; 50-494; 50-496; 50-497; 50-498;

Arcona 40DS: 50-494;

Racers

Figaro 2:pG4-PT36; 4-37; 5-42; 6-52; 6-53; 6-55; 6-56

VOR 70: PG16-PT160; 17-187

Farr 400: 67-661

Soto 40: 96-952;

Lifting keel/centerboarder

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Allures 45: PG10-PT93; 100-996;

Allures yachts: 25-248;

OVNI 425: 23-228;

OVNI 395 : 68-679; 69-690;

J 108: 67-661

Atlantic 43: 68-67

Boreal 44: 97-970; 98-974;

Multihulls till 34ft

Several Trimarans: 28-273;

Multihulls with 34ft and over

Dragonfly yachts: 26-257;

Dragonfly 35: 26-258; 27-261; 27-262;

Dragonfly 1200: 56-551;

Corsair 37: 28-276;

Farrier 39: 28-277;

Challenge 37: 28-278

Hammerhead 34: 29-385;

Hammerhead 54: 29-288; 30-292;

Trimax 10.80: 29-285;

Sig 45: 54-534; 54-539; 54-540;

Gunboat: 56-551

Fusion: 56-551;

Outremer: 56-551;

Tournier: 56-511;

Classical and Traditional boats

Jclass boats: 54-537;

Tofinou 12: 71-703;

Folck boat: 73-727;

Puffin Yachts: PG14-PT135; 14-138; 16-155;

Bestwind 50: PG12-PT116; 14-123;

Bestevaer 53: PG12-PT116;

Bestevaer yachts: PG16-PT155

Cape George 36: 41-410; 42-412;

Marieholm 33 : 42-412;

This list is not actualized. Please use the advanced search engine of the thread with the name of the model and builder. It works, most of the time.

(actualized till PG100) and it will be no more because that gives a lot of work (500 pages now).

Instead I am actualizing the titles and with the right title the thread search engine (not the one on the top of the page bit the one much below that says search thread) on its advanced option works quite well.

Hello,

Melrna posts on Miami Boat show and the comments of Smackdady about the interest of that thread lead me to think that perhaps I could share more information about sailboats I know and find interesting.

I am interested in boat design (interior and sailing performance) and I go each year at least to one of the main European Boat shows and that means basically Dusseldorf, Paris or Hamburg. On these shows you have the opportunity not only to visit the boats of the main and medium size builders but you have also the opportunity to visit the boats of small and sometime family shipyards.

Normally they build very good sailboats and sometimes they have been doing that for decades. The boats are hugely appreciated by their faithful customers but because they don't advertise their boats and there are very few on the used boat market, they pass unnoticed by the majority of the sail community.

The visit to these boats is a very rewarding experience because they are made with passion by true boat lovers and because when you talk to the guy that is on the boat, you are not talking with a dealer, that many times doesn't know much about boats, but with the builder, or the designer.

Even if you are not a buyer they will have real pleasure in talking with someone that really appreciates and understands their work. Those guys really believe in what they are doing and they do it the best way they can, no matter the cost. In a word, they are in love with what they are doing.
Of course, these boats have to be expensive.

This thread will be mainly about these boats, as a way of letting you know about these gems. Let's see if you are interested. I will not post much. If you want to know more you have just to participate and make questions.

The first one it will be the "Sirius". I have had the pleasure to visit several times their boats and to talk with the builders (father and son).

These boats have the best interiors you can find, or at least that I have seen. Not only the quality, but the design and ergonomy are fantastic. You really won't believe you are in a 32ft boat. Just incredible and amazing; Have a look at it:

Sirius-Werft Plön | Forecabin | 32 DS for 2 forecabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Owner´s cabin | 32 DS 4-berth comfort owner´s cabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Workshop | 32 DS for 2 workshop

Now that the son is in charge they have modernized the outside look of the new boats, they look fantastic not only inside but also outside. The boats sail well and they have clients as far as Japan.

Sirius-Werft Plön | Versions of decks house | You have the choice

Another interesting point is the way they develop new boats. They work with the clients to collect suggestions on the shape and design of the boats. A truly interesting affair, between passionate clients and passionate builders.

Sirius-Werft Plön | 35 DS | Philosophy

Take a good look at their interesting site and if you find the boat interesting, please let me know, I can add some information.

Sirius-Werft Plön | english | Welcome at website of Sirius-Werft Plön

Regards

Paulo
 
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#4,995 · (Edited)
Dufour 410 GL





I have posted recently about the Dufour 410 GL, the one that is in my opinion the most beautiful mass market main market cruiser. Felci that is known to design very nice boats has made a great design.

For the ones that are interested in a 40ft it would be interesting to read the test made by Yacht.de, always a reference in what regards seriousness and quality. It can be downloaded on line (2€).

Even without reading the test we can enjoy the movie. We can see that the boat sails very well with light winds, even without a geenaker and can see that there is a lot of bright and interesting ideas on that boat in what regards storage, space and comfort. Nice;)

Movie:

Neue Tourenyacht Dufour 410 - Yacht TV - Segel Videos von Europas größtem Yacht Magazin
 
#4,996 ·
Transat Jaques Fabre - Incredile images

They are just starting to get some bad weather, much worst is ahead. Just look at this images of one of the Mod70. It is incredible what these boats can take without breaking as it is impressive what those 2 solo sailors can take: Can you imagine sleeping, eating or even pissing with that motion?

 
#5,000 ·
Re: J122 "e"

Look!, now they can do interiors as well!
Yes you are right. And that interior in teak would be even more beautiful. A modern interior that makes the J122 even more desirable as a performance cruiser. A lot more light on that interior now.











One of the best if not the best in what regards racing/cruising. A favorite of mine and a great boat. Pity that they had not took the chance to offer a two wheel set up: that would make the boat better for cruising and most of all better for solo sailing.

On the outside the boat looks even better now.













Regards

Paulo
 
#4,999 · (Edited)
Transat Jaques Fabre



Really bad out there!. +30K with 40K gusts on one of the worst and more dangerous places to have strong winds: The Biscay.

The two mod 70 after that mad cavalcade during a good part of the night are out of the bad weather. They managed not to broke the boats and are out of Biscay.

All the others are still battling sea conditions. As I had previewed that the Open60 on those conditions would close on the Multi 50 and the duo wonder eat them all:eek: and is way ahead of everybody. To give an idea of the conditions it is enough to say that with 30k wind the Open 60 are only making 10k. With the power those boats have you can imagine the pounding they are suffering.

Those two (Gabart/Dejoieux) seem to be untouchable. All other boats have a top sailor and a very good sailor. Macif is the only one with not only two top sailors (and probably the best)as it is one if not the fastest Open 60 on the race. It is not fair:D

I have said also that these conditions took away some of the advantage of the fastest boats creating more equal conditions and we can see some of the slower boats with a fantastic performance: That's the case with Alessandro de Benedetto that with the older boat (1998) and without canting keel is making a great race and leaving well behind more modern boats like Energa (2007) or Tanguy de la Motte (also with a 1998 boat). That guy deserves a more modern boat.

Transat Jacques Vabre 2013
 
#5,001 · (Edited)
J122e / Bluejacket 40

Let's take the opportunity to look at both boats. I will not be analyzing them since it is obvious that the J122 is a much faster boat and while on the Bluejacket publicity they advertise the boat as a dual boat it it clear that we are not talking about the same races.

The J122 can be a winner anywhere in almost any race, the Bluejacket is more for club racing, or as Americans call it bear can races, that are much more popular in the states than in Europe.

Many bad things have been said about the Bluejacket in the Sailnet, but I like the hull and even if the rigging is not adapted (at all) for racing or performance cruising, I am sure that it will be a fast cruising boat that can even be considered, mainly by american standards, a performance cruiser.

Take a look at the very nice Bluejacket hull:

Blue Jacket 40 360° View | BlueJacketYachts.com

Happily they seemed to have changed their approach in advertising the boat assuming a much more realistic approach. Initially they have said about the Bluejacket 40:

Delivering a unique combination of exhilarating performance, luxurious accommodations and exceptional quality, the Blue Jacket provides a delightful environment for family vacations and overnight getaways combined with race-winning capability.

Blue Jacket 40 (BJ40) Performance Sailing Yacht | BlueJacketYachts.com

to a more modest (and correct) approach in what regards racing ability:

"The hull form and appendages of the Blue Jacket are designed to work in harmony with the sailplan to provide performance that extends daily sailing range and the potential to generate more race trophies....

The design challenge presented was to create a yacht with a performance pedigree, one that could compete effectively in around-the-buoy and offshore races yet provide a level of comfort, build quality and ease of use that would gratify the entire family. "

Blue Jacket 40 Yacht Design Comments by Tim Jackett | BlueJacketYachts.com

Nobody is talking anymore about winning races but to compete effectively and about winning trophies. That is better.

The J122 is advertised:

"The J122 no longer needs an introduction. It's a boat that has proven its worth in terms of fast cruising and boasts a series of fine race victories. Its seaworthiness remains unsurpassed, but it seemed important for us to adapt the J122 to the current climate. It's been a tough mission as it's not easy to alter the style of an existing boat. The hull, the deck and the structure are identical. For the rest, together with the Roséo firm, who are renowned designers in the watersports industry, we've given the J122 a thorough review inside and out. ..The J122 E is quite simply more modern and is sure to correspond with the needs of an ever more demanding clientele.

There are several J 122 versions that can suit either the most cruising program or the most regatta program.

The J 122 is a cruising sailboat in which you can expect to find the comfort worthy of the biggest units while it's offering on the deck the most advanced and suitable material for an intensive use.
Many options are available, for the cruising lovers: teak deck, extra water tank, and hood; for the regatta lovers: high modulus carbon mast, boom and carbon steering wheel.
Despite its regattas results, the J 122 remains an easy maneuverable sailboat when crew is reduced thanks to its stability and simplicity."


I would say that both descriptions are now reasonably accurate.

The J122 and the Bluejacket are not pointed to the same market. While the Bluejacket 40 is pointed to what in Europe we call the Luxury market and points to main market cruisers that want a faster boat, the J122 points clearly to performance cruising and racing, enlarging with this interior and the cruising options the scope of cruisers that will look at this boat as a cruising option: experienced sailors that like to cruise fast, like to have a lot of fun sailing and hate to be overtaken. I know of some that fit on this category:D

Even if the J122 is designed by an American NA, following a long tradition on that type of hulls, it is also as a performance cruising boat much more an European performance cruiser with the interior designed by a very good French interior designer.

Two different concepts in what regards the interior, the american one with lot's of heavy wood everywhere, a very traditional look and much less interior light, the European one light, modern and with lots of light.

I like the Bluejacket interior (even if not for me) but there are two items that are out of place; The stairs, that, under a design and integration point of view, are incredibly bad and the table, Island Packet style. that can work on Island Packets and be a trade mark but here it is just odd and not nicely integrated. Have a look:

BJ40 360° Tour

Some recent movies with the Bluejacket 40:





There is not yet any with the new version of the J122 but we can have a look at one with the previous version that has the same sailing performances. Here one competing in a top race last year.

 
#5,002 ·
I think that might be the first time I've seen a 'J' with teak decks.. I gather that's the Euro built model? Looks pretty nice, alright..

J boats have always been instantly 'recognizable'.. this one is departing from that, esp if the sprit pod, logo, and transom are out of view..
 
#5,003 ·
I don't think the J122 is built in the states. The boat is built by Jcomposites in France, at least the first ones were and certainly almost all are since they are sold almost all in Europe. Some Europeans like teak decks, specially in cruising boats;)

J/122 Articles & Reviews

J Composite - Home - J Boats - J Composites

The J122 would have not any change to have survived as a performance cruiser with a relatively good interior in the states. That market is almost non existent there and most of the brands that make those boats in Europe or don't have dealers on the states or just make a symbolic effort since the boats are not sold.

Salona have tried and sold one boat:D to a very happy client that is a member of this forum, a salona 37.

Most American sailors still see does boats as race boats:D

Regards

Paulo
 
#5,008 · (Edited)
Transat Jaques Fabre

I was right being afraid about the Multi50 in bad weather. Look at this movie:


Jour 2 - Avarie de flotteur - Maître Jacques... by TransatJacquesVabre

Maitre Jacques the Multi 50 with the two Loic tryng to make it to port.

On the Multy 50 Yves Le Blevec was overtaken by Lalou but I believe Yves is trying to maintain the boat in one piece till they get rid of bad weather. I bet on him for winning the race on Multi50.

And on the head of the race and also ahead of all Multi 50, the wonder duo:


Jour 2 - MACIF (IMOCA) -Transat Jacques Vabre 2013 by TransatJacquesVabre

Also some nice images taken from the 40class racer that arrived first to Roscoff, Sébastien Rogues / Fabien Delahaye


Jour 2 - GDF SUEZ (Class40) - Transat Jacques... by TransatJacquesVabre
 
#5,010 · (Edited)
Transat Jaques Fabre

and the 40 class racers are racing again.


Jour 3 - Solidaires en Peloton (Class40... por TransatJacquesVabre

The ones that won the first leg, Rogues / Delahaye seem untouchable and have already a big advance. They are great sailors and his boat, a new Sam Manuard design is a bullet. On 2th and third the same places that they have occupied on the first leg, the Spanish team (Pela/Pablo) and the German/French one (Riechers and Brasseur). They are sailing respectively a 2013 Marcelino Botin and a 2012 Sam Manuard design.

If the 2013 Ker designed 40class racer seems not to be so hot as expected the one from the less know Spanish NA (Marcelino Botin) seems to be very fast allowing the all Spanish team a top performance. Of course with two boats on the podium Manuard remains one of the hottest Na from the new generation (Seascape 27).

Transat Jacques Vabre 2013

Regarding the Open 60 Stamm, out of the strong winds seems to be loosing the pack that is in pursuing the leader, that are now only three. The laeader Gabart/Drejoyeux seem to have taken a radically different route option and are going in Peniche direction (my home port) and they are getting very close to it before turning to the Atlatic again.

Here, Marc's boat on the storm:


Jour 4 - Safran (IMOCA) - Transat Jacques Vabre... por TransatJacquesVabre

Has I had thought they had problems, namely with a furler and that's why they had lost so much time (they were 2th). They have managed to fix the problem and they are now fully operational again.

The multi 50 finally out of the storm can leave storm sailing tactics and go to full speed again. The leading ones have already overtaken all Open 60's with the exception of the leader but that should happen sun. And I was right about Yves. He was just managing the boat with care on the storm. Out of it he went to speed again, overtook Lalou and is first again.

I love that guy as a sailor, Yves Le Blevec is for many years the best skipper on the multi50 and those boats are very tricky to sail. I would love to see him on a Multi 70. By the way on the last Transat Jaques Fabre he won the race on multi 50 d teaming with...Sam Manuard, the designer of those top 40class racers. Sam is not only a top designer but a top racer, what a guy:D

Here Yves, managing the storm:


Jour 4 - Actual (Multi 50) - Transat Jacques... por TransatJacquesVabre
 
#5,011 ·
Re: Transat Jaques Fabre

Regarding the Open 60 Stamm, out of the strong winds seems to be loosing the pack that is in pursuing the leader, that are now only three. The laeader Gabart/Drejoyeux seem to have taken a radically different route option and are going in Peniche direction (my home port) and they are getting very close to it before turning to the Atlantic again.
Broken rudder blade for Macif explains the detour to your house, Paulo. What a shame, as they were disappearing into the sunset against the rest of the fleet. It is getting quite depressing how risky it is to race in the ocean these days, with all the floating debris that can easily damage keels and rudders, even sink boats. In the past you only worried about whales and growlers, or perhaps a floating tree trunk if you were near the mouth of a river. Now you have to deal with stuff like this:



Fortunately there are no races going from the U.S. / Canada west coast towards Asia, but it is inevitable that this sort of debris will eventually be found everywhere, making ocean sailing increasingly more dangerous.

Pity. :(
 
#5,013 ·
Bob -

Vic-Maui is probably at risk, but the TransPac and Pac Cup start quite a bit further south and head SSW, which I think is outside the predicted landfall of this particular debris field. But I'm no expert on the Northern Pacific currents, by any means.

Certainly folks who do the Swiftsure Race (I've done two of them) are already familiar with floating log risks (not to mention being run down by bulk carriers and fishing boats at night in Juan de Fuca). And I'd be nervous about the outside legs of the VanIsle 360. That's going to be truly ugly.

Don't know if anyone has ever hit a container or similar debris on the TP and PC races, but we know boats have hit whales and been sunk.

I was thinking more of Northern Pacific East-to-West - i.e., from NA West Coast to Japan (a race you'd probably never get anyone to sign up for).

Best! :)
 
#5,015 · (Edited)
The postman non stop sailing circumnavigation.

I don't know if I had mentioned the extraordinary story of a French postman that had a dream to circumnavigate?

He was 52 years old and like most of us with that age he worked. His job: postman, a popular one on the French back country. So he started to think how he could manage to circumnavigate and keep his job and found out that it had to be a non stop circumnavigation.

For that he had to work without any vacations for 4 hears to join the needed time to circumnavigate. With the 30 days vacations of the 5th year he would have 150 days. It had to be enough. So he was on schedule, to circumnavigate non stop in 150 days, not because he wanted to beat any record but because he could lose his job.

He had not much money so the best he could get was a 20 year old 34ft Jeanneau. It had to do.

Don't ask me how without vacations he managed time to prepare the boat but he was helped by the French sailing passion. Many helped him and the number of people that was on the port to see the unknown postman sail away was a proof of that.

His name: Alain Maigan, he did not make it in 150 days but on 185 days (26,100 nm) but it seems that the French post service did not fired him:D.

Here you have a very nice movie about his story. It is in French but the images speak for themselves:



Now, it is not to expect that a simple non stop circumnavigation would be enough for such a character. His new project for next year with the same Boat?

A circumnavigation non stop by the wrong way, against the dominant winds : East to west.

He is looking for sponsors. If you want to help:

Alain Maignan 11 mois en Orbite autour de la Planète "Terre et Eau" contre vents et marées - Schouten de retour du Mille Sabords | alainmaignan.sportblog.fr
 
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Transat Jaques Fabre

and Lalou capsized. He was trying to recover over Yves (the leader) and both boats sailed in the night almost side by side and at eye sight view. I have said those Muti50 were very fast but tricky to sail at full blast and that's what happen:

They sailed with 17k wind at full speed: Ironically, after surviving a Biscay gale, it was in more manageable but gusty, shifty trade winds conditions that Lalou Roucayrol and Mayeul Riffet on Arkema - Aquitaine capsized at around 2230hrs (French time) on Sunday with the Portuguese trade winds blowing from the N'ly sector at around 20kts. The fast, gusty conditions proved to be the undoing of the multihull in conditions which often cause problems for multihulls, flying downwind. The gennaker sheet would only need to have snagged with a bad set of waves when the evening visibility was poorer.

Yann Eliès (FenêtréA Cardinal) who was close when the trimaran capsized comfirmed to race direction what had happened and that the two skippers were uninjured and did not want immediate help. Eliès was less than a mile away when it happened. The duo, in coordination with their technical team, will set up a tow to Portugal. Weather conditions are not due to become any worse off Lisbon in the coming days.


You have the full story here (French):

Mayeul Riffet : "On va aller sous l'eau" | Transat Jacques Vabre 2013 : Le Havre - Itajai | Novembre 2013

Les circonstances du chavirage | Transat Jacques Vabre 2013 : Le Havre - Itajai | Novembre 2013

This video was taken some hours before ans shows the two M50 battling. That battle was going on for a long time and Lalou (the one that capsized) was ahead:


Jour 4 - FenetreA Cardinal/Arkema - Région... by TransatJacquesVabre
 
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Transat Jaques Fabre

Macif and the two star skippers after having lost 4 hours in Peniche (Portuguese Port) are back on the leading pack that pursues the Leader, now Safran, with Marc and Pascal. After having solved that problem with the furler here they are having a very good performance. Macif is now near Stamm and in some hours I believe it is going to overtake it.

On the 40class Rogues and Delahaye maintain the leadership but the 2th is Riechers/Brasseur and they are closing. Two Manuards designed boats leading the race:). The Spanish team that was second fall way back on the classification and I think they have some problems on the boat.

As a curiosity Sam Manuard, the designer of the two leading boats is racing too, not as the main skipper but giving an hand to Mura, a less experienced Italian racer that is racing with one of his boats (2012). They had been in 8th place (not bad at all) but they are now losing time and are going to do a pit stop in Spain to take care of a mast fixation problem.

Also the leaders are going to make a pit stop. Probably they are losing some time to Riechers because they have not any wind information:

"Not long after they left Roscoff in the lead of the Class40 fleet on Sunday morning at 0400hrs (CET/France) French duo Sébastien Rogues and Fabien Delahaye realised they had lost the two essential wind vanes off the top of their mast. "

Also a pit stop for the Spanish team to take care of the problem that has making them slower: The starboard rudder was hit and needs replacement.

On the M50, now that Lalou is out, the 2th place belongs to Le Roux that pursuits Yves Le Blevec. Yves announced that is going to make a pit stop in Madeira so things are going to be hot in what regards leadership:

"Class leaders of the Multi50s, Actual, sailed by Yves Le Blévec and Kito de Pavant have confirmed that they have decided to make a technical stop in Madeira which lies 160 miles away pretty much on their direct course. They plan to re-instal part of their wind instruments at the top of the mast. "
 
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Here are some images from my newest design project for an East Coast sailor.
I hope Paulo can make these images more presentable for me (please).

The client currently owns a Hinckley SW42. He wanted a boat with more DWL. I kept the displ the same as his current boat. He has a bridge he has to clear to get to his cruising area and that restricted rig height. We are also draft restricted due to the area where the client sails.







 

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#5,019 ·
Here are some images from my newest design project for an East Coast sailor.
I hope Paulo can make these images more presentable for me (please).

The client currently owns a Hinckley SW42. He wanted a boat with more DWL. I kept the displ the same as his current boat. He has a bridge he has to clear to get to his cruising area and that restricted rig height. We are also draft restricted due to the area where the client sails.
Purty.... I like the SW42 similarities... new and 'improved' :)

Upsized your images too.. ;)
 
#5,021 ·
No worries!

Is the ballast shoe on the keel all the ballast? or is there internal ballast in the keel molding too?
 
#5,022 · (Edited by Moderator)
The keel you see on these images is what we call a "place holder". In other words we have not really attacked the keel design because we do not have a weight study yet. But we want to complete the image so we give it a keel that I think will be very close to the final keel design. There is a natural sequence to how these items are aproached.

 

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Bob Perry 46.2

Nice design Bob.

I hate that dinghy place. It does nothing good to the boat aesthetics and it will take a lot of light to the interior but probably with such a narrow beam it has no space to be stored forward, I mean if the dinghy was stored there the lateral space available on the deck would be probably too small for a safe passage to the bow.

Have you 3d drawings of the interior? What is the weight of the boat? The weight you have in the drawings refers to what (I cannot read the small letters)?

That's a pity the needed small draft. That boat screams for a decent draft and a fast foiled keel, one that keeps the weight down, maximizes upwind performance, keeping the wet surface and drag low.

Regards

Paulo
 
#5,024 ·
Paulo:
The client currently carries that dinghy on the foredeck. This is a big improvment over the foredeck. This is his 10 year old daughter's sailing dink and it will see a lot of use. He does not like to tow it. Where I live we usually tow our dinks. This client knows exactly how he will use his boat and he really likes his current boat. He just wanted more DWL so he could get better speed. He also wanted the freeboard as low as I could get.

We are just now getting started on 3D drawings for the interior. I'll post them when we have them.
 
#5,025 ·
I agree with Paulo on the placement of the dinghy.......BUT.........foredeck is not aways were one wants to put one. Nor is having davits with one hanging off the stern. Boat does not appear to be long enough to go for a rear garage as some have. That seems to start in the upper 40 to low 50' range............

I am sure the client will like the boat. For me I would want ALL the DWL I could get out of the boat, along with ALL the draft I can get........then again, I am all of 10 miles south of BP, usually in 300-600'+ of water........draft is not an issue.

Now we are talking personal tastes etc.

Marty
 
#5,029 ·
Bob,

I am seeing what appears to be a flip down off the stern. Is that an ingress/egress off the stern? kind of a best way to keep the classic look, yet still have an option of easy stern access when one needs this? An interesting way of solving that issue if so.

Marty
 
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