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Re: Introduction.

Originally Posted by vazdecaminha View Post
Hello everybody, I am new in this forum and this is my first contact.

After many years of dreaming on sailing I have decided to go ahead and either build or buy a boat. Not yet sure about the size and shape but it will be for not so young people...and I look forward to it.
I am very fond of the 'Seraffyn' lines and the size suits me
I assume you are talking about Lynn and Larry Pardey's Hess designed boat. If you have never built a boat you might look at John Welsford Designs

This is the only classically styled bluewater boat I know of designed for a homebuilder. It appears to have good sailing qualities and a sturdy design.

In this case the client and myself the designer were designing for a singlehanded voyage that included a non-stop leg of over 6000 miles so some serious stores needed to be carried.

Designed for the amateur builder, everything in the boat is designed to be built at home with normal hand tools using materials from the local lumberyard There is nothing here that is difficult, or beyond an average handyman.

[...] she can be shortened right down almost to storm canvas without having to change sails which makes shorthanded sailing much easier.

Note that the skipper reports that during the prototypes maiden voyage he was able to have the boat self steer in a wide variety of conditions, and on most courses without the use of the windvane, and that at one point he’d been sailing for 36 hours without touching the tiller.

The coast off Tauranga is shallow for many miles out, and there is nothing out there to break the waves that set up on the sandy bottom not far under the surface. It had been blowing gale force onshore for days, kicking up a monster swell from the south east, then the wind swung west south west 20 /25 knots plus making a 2 metre high chop running at right angles to the established 3 m high storm surge. The combination made for an irregular and uncomfortable mix which had some waves combine to be a good 5 m high.

We found that we could cook down below when the conditions outside were a lot like the inside of a washing machine and that the cockpit was a very secure and comfortable place for us to weather the storm.

The best design that Welsford had before was the Swaggie. I was impressed by how sturdy the boat was in its design and it was quite roomy inside for a boat of its size. However, with Sundowner, I feel like he finally has a grown up design. This seems similar to a Flicka in terms of size but it might be more comfortable and it seems rigged more like a Bristol Channel Cutter. The only disadvantage I can see is that it is only 21' long. However, I see that the bow and transom are nearly vertical so it is probably equivalent to a 25' boat with more sweep. I guess if I wanted a wooden boat for a transatlantic trip I would be looking at this one really hard.

You might compare it with some of these: Atom Voyages - Good Old Boats List

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