Originally Posted by Brent Swain
Jan De Groote was the surveyor who told a client that 5/16th rigging wire and 5/8th turnbuckles were not strong enough for a 29 footer. He refused to put that survey in writing, but charged the full bill for it. He also told a friend that cleats made out of 1 1/4 inch stainless shaft, welded well into the hull, were not "Yacht quality" cleats. It seems he would prefer something screwed down, made out of melted down beer cans, from a ship swindlery, than something which put structural strength over stylishness. It appears that he values trendy," yachtie flimsiness" over structural strength.
If you are seeking a survey which judges a boat by it's snobby yachtieness, and its value as a status symbol, rather than how well it is put together, then Degroote is the guy to hire. If you prefer seaworthiness over stylishenes, then I wouldnt recommend Jan De groote.
Tony Skidmore is an excellent Vancouver surveyor. For a seaworthines evaluation , over "yachtieness" ,find someone who surveys commercial boats.
I'd almost prefer being told things were not ok when they were over what happened to me. I got the everything looks great, and a few minor fixes in writing in the survey, along with a half page of caveats for what they weren't responsible for, got billed a lot more than most surveyors charge. Fixing the boat has emptied my bank account, and I still haven't taken her for a single sail yet. On the bright side the next owner is going to get a damn nice boat, and I'll be able to pay off half my loan with what I get back to try again, then I can pay off the other half of the 20 grand and try again.