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Old 11-01-2012
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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

Some comments from am amateur freshwater catamaran jockey....
note that at the time of sinking and the previous 12 hours that
the Bounty was approximately due west of the storm eye
and even if there were 18 to 25 foot waves, the wind direction
from the counterclockwise storm should have been blowing directly
from their tail end. Now I know it would be foolish to have
any kinds of canvas up ( I think ? ) or maybe not, if the engine
is lost perhaps a small one up front to maintain direction
and stability.... Could the crew of pretty girls managed to hoist
any canvas in that manner in 45 knot winds is another question.

Someday we will know if they were unlucky and had a mechanical
breakdown or whether the waves coming over the sides
of the ship and down into the bottom drowned the engines.

In that case, the ship simply succumbed to conditions bigger
than it could handle ( and sunk by design ).
I wonder if the ships log for the last 50 years could reveal what
the tallest and roughest seas the ship has ever encounted and handled.
were.

Academically, I would like to know if the ship had sailed due east
out into the Atlantic how far it could have gotton since it would
have been sailing head on into the hurricane head winds because
of the counter clockwise storm. Or maybe when the ship left
port there were no headwinds for a day or two and they
could have made good progress.

I do remember that the ship was capable of 10 knots speed
under power and that is in dead calm seas and winds.

So, assume first two days of no headwinds and the ship could have
been 480 miles ( 48 hrs times 10 knots) due east from dock into the
atlantic and then maybe 75 miles a day for the next 3 days. That would
have put it 700 miles out into the Atlantic after 5 days at sea.

I think that is the decision that should have been made if
we went back in a Time Machine and could tell captain what to
do.

Also, regarding survival suits and swimming in washing machine
seas of 18 to 25 feet. The problem is breathing and fatigue
exhaustion of fighting for clear air to breathe. Do we have any
technology that could help us breathe other than tanks which
would run out of air anyway. I was thinking a mask and snorkel
would be better. Dont the navy swimmers wear mask and snorkel?

Maybe you could float and get a breath when you hit clear air
and then hold your breath and exhale a minute later to get
another breath when you hit clear air once again.

But wow, what if you had to do that for 24 or 36 hours to stay
alive ?

I do have a suggestion, the firemen wear small tanks good for
20 minutes and I think survival suits should have them just to
allow enough air to swim to the life raft etc. It is a shame
the last two to leave the ship could not make it to the
life rafts. What a pretty little girl.. Miss Teen Alaska a few years
back.
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