Originally Posted by TakeFive
Having a certification does not guarantee full competence in any field. However, a person who lacks the ability or persistence to pass the certification requirements is almost certainly not fully competent.
In other words, certification is a necessary but not sufficient condition for competence.
It is absurd to suggest that licenses and training have little correlation with competence. It is simply not true. The correlation is not 100% perfect, but it is a very strong correlation.
Apparently you did not read/see the word "often" in my statement and yes, this occurs frequently, often, more than occasionally and quite frequently in some professions.
What typically happens is that people come out of educational institutions with book knowledge and perhaps some canned practical experience of varying effectiveness. The real education happens on the job. This real education OFTEN has little to do with much of what was required to get the entry certification. It's too bad we've largely given up on apprentice learning and now leave teaching to academics who often have NO actual experience or worse, have left the field they teach because they are not very good at it.
This is way off-topic. Sorry I led it astray. May you never encounter the "six pack" captain who forgot many years ago that you have the right of way. We'll just disagree.