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Re: HMS Bounty in trouble...

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guess the problem of following blindingly a plotter has some similarities with people following blindly car GPS information. People believe in that even when obviously the information doesn't make any make sense and that is about what you are talking about. That blind trust that in a car is funny is dangerous on a boat.PCP
Of course. This goes without saying. Common sense.o That IS why the warning appears when it turns on. There is a little sign on side mirrors in car reminding someone everythime that objects appear further.... So what.

Most of us know not to trust the chartplotter blindly....We are not children, we can read....most of us have imnstances where they have been off....so what, we know that........ Next issue.

Jon,

Soooooo,,,what causes a Captain of a boat, with more than just casual dockside experience to run toward a shallow narrow channel, in 40 knot winds opposing tide conditions, large ocean swells and breaking waves, experienced for hours on end, 2 members of the crew too sick to stand watch, pleading with the captain, broken autopilot, obvious rage conditions during daylight hours. Why the chartplotter of course.

Sooooo what causes a Captain, 500 ton Master liscence, 30 years offshore experience to leave port in a wooden boat used as a movie prop and head toward a developing hurricane, new fangled pumps necessary to keep the boat dewatered ( no old fashioned manual pumps), differing stories on maintainence condition of the vessel. Why the pumps of course were contributory to the boats sinking. They gave the Captain a slase sense of security he would be able to keep the boat dewatered. The pumps were a contributory cause.

Thats your argument

In both cases it is the Captain who exercised poor judgement in putting his boat in compromising positions in the first place. Walbridge on Bounty for sailing into a hurricane, and Ross on Rule62 for sailing toward the Bahamas. We know Ross had been tried to be dissuaded from doing this, he continued on for a day and a half putting his boat further and further in jeopardy when he could have turned away or hove to. Walbridgre could have sought port or shelter but kept sailing on. Even IF and Jon must assume this IF Ross;s chartplotter was working and IFhe used it to try and navigate at night. It is clear in broad daylight for hours he was fine with the decision to run the rage to allieviate his crews...and maybe even his self imposed desperate condition. At any time, any time he could have just hove to and mitigated the motion on the boat and waited for the rage or conditions to eventually subside. The Captain placed the boat near the Bahamas where the danger was awaiting, just like the Captain sailing close to the hurricane where the danger was waiting. Similarly they are both help responsible for the actions. The use of the chartplotter if we beleive it worked to run at night was just a side reference as he never would have been there had the Capatin not run the boat to the shallow Bahamas and shore.
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