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Re: Production boats- justified bias?

Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Daniel////good to see you back by the way

I think maybe I wasnt being clear. I wasnt comparing the C&C, Sabre, Tartan of 1980 vs todays production boat. I was comparing apples and apples by by comparing it to the build quality of the 1980 Hunters, Catalinas, and Benne. Thus the refernece to Cherubini exception and the resale values.

I think the same applies today and dont put the modern Tartan, Sabre and C&C in the same category as the mass production boats. A 2011 C&C, Tartan , Sabre, while I Know Paulo may disagree about design characteristics which he knows more about, is a significant differnt quality boat than the mass produced ones. Thus the price differences/
Wow, step out for a few hours to put on the winter cover (which sucks!) and two pages of posts appear! All great stuff. Going to work tomorrow is going to be tough!

I see your point now. Apologies for missing it. That said, I'm still not sure I agree. Take Hunter out of it. The 70's and 80's was an early time for that company, and they made a lot of junk back then (IMHO).

I just don't think C&C, Pearson, Ericson, etc., made better boats than Beneteau or Catalina of similar vintage. Not from what I've seen.

By the way, current C&C is not the same build quality as Sabre, or even Tartan. I know it's owned by the same Tartan peeps, but the boats are much more lightly built. I think the new Tartans are incredibly nice. The C&Cs are just not in the same category. The C&C is no better than the Bene's or Catalinas. I've spent time on them, and I see nothing distinguishing them.

As for Tartan and Sabre, and others, I certainly agree, they are nicer than BeneHuntAlinas. In my opinion anyway. That's why you pay twice as much for them!

Dan Goldberg

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